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Thursday, September 29, 2016

Liz Houle On The Psychopath

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I'm sure that the book, "Psychopath Whisperer," by kent A. Kiehl, PhD is fascinating, but Liz Houle was applying the Hare Psychopathy Checklist-Revised (PCL-R) to Amanda Knox. That tool for specialists was created and researched for 35 years by Dr. Robert Hare.

Dr. Hare's web site provides a warning that his checklist has considerable potential for harm if not used correctly. The clinicians using it should:

"Possess an advanced degree in the social, medical, or behavioral sciences, such as a Ph.D., D.Ed. or M.D.

"Be registered with the local state or provincial registration body that regulates the assessment and diagnosis of mental disorder (e.g., psychological or psychiatric association);

"Have experience with forensic populations (as dmonstrated by registration as a diploma in forensic psychology or psychiatry, completion of a practicum or internship in a clinical-forensic setting, or at least two years of relevant work-related experience)

"Limit their use of the PCL-R to those populations in which it has been fully validated. The manual, published in 1991, stated that this meant only adult male forensic populations (e.g., institutional or community correctional facilities, forensic psychiatric hospitals, and pre trial evaluation or detention facilities.) However, there now is enough empirical evidence to support its use with female and adolescent offenders, as well as with sex offenders.

"insure that they have adequate training and experience in the use of the PCL-R. We further recommend that, wherever possible, the PCL-R scores of two independent raters should be averaged so as to increase the reliability of the assessment."

(Information quoted from http://www.hare.org/scales/pclr.html )

Ms. Houle had not demonstrated that she was qualified according to these requirements. The determination of a person being a psychopath is not made by checking off the items of this list. Professionals use this list as a guide for studying the subject. They are not merely making a summary of psychopathic behavior. They are determining if the lack of conscience is what motivates those behaviors.

Ms. Houle even quoted Dr. Kent A. Kiehl explaining that it takes practice to sift through what a person says to find out if that person is a psychopath. What's even more interesting is that Ms. Houle cites the alleged coffee shop incident in which a jewish coworker supposedly heard Ms. Knox telling him that her German people killed his Jews, and began laughing hysterically about it. The problem with that story is that it is told in the third person. The alleged Jewish coworker has never come forward to confirm it really happened. Nobody knows who that Jew was because the person reporting the story has never said who that person was.

Guilters like Ms. Houle love this sort of check list since all they have to do is fit things about a person into each slot and instantly they claim they have proved psychopathy. It just doesn't work that way. For professionals to diagnose psychopathy, they have to make sure there are no other reasons for the items on the checklist.


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Liz Houle Further Down The Psychopath

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 Liz Houle like other guilters like to use the appearance of authority to attribute guilt to Amanda Knox. She thought and thinks that armed with the Hare Psychopathy Checkliist-Revised, she can conduct an analysis of Amanda Knox. Ms. Houle only suggested two possible conclusions: that Ms. Knox is a potential psychopath, or that she is a garden variety killer. Ms. Houle doesn't admit that her use of the Hare Test is subjective to her bias against Amanda.

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1. Ms. Houle started with characteristic of glibness or superficial charm. She first brought up that a Jewish coworker of Ms. Knox had reported that she had made a disturbing remark about how her German people had killed his Jews, and began to laugh hysterically. However the report was actually told by someone who didn't identify the Jewish coworker who supposedly witnessed this incident. The story has never been confirmed. Amanda does exhibit a naive openness in what she says to people, but she is not cruel.

Then Ms. Houle used the account of Sophie one of Meredith's friends to describe how lacking in social skills Ms. Knox was. Ms. Houle demonstrated that Ms. Knox was loud and talkative, but Sophie certainly didn't call her charming even superficially.

2. In fitting Ms. Knox for the grandiose sense of self-worth characteristic, Ms. Houle references the video that Meredith starred in and the musical video and denotes the video Amanda wrote the script for as an example of Amanda's competitive nature. The two videos are only superficially similar. They are polar opposites of each other. They don't tell the same story or use the same staging.

Ms. Houle had to adjust history when she claimed that Ms. Knox had told Meredith's British friends that Meredith's body was found near the wardrobe or closet. Actually, Ms. Knox had said it was found IN the wardrobe. That was incorrect, but it was still used to claim Amanda's prior knowledge of the crime.

Ms. Houle can claim that Ms. Knox had erroneously claimed she had found the body, but it was Ms. Knox who called everyone's attention to the peculiar specks of blood in the sink and the poop in the toilet and was concerned about Meredith's locked door.

So Ms. Houle shored up her allusion to grandiosity with Jade Bidwell's testimony about how Ms. Knox didn't seem upset while talking on the phone that first night at the police station although she did get really angry at the unknown killer later when she exclaimed that Meredith bled to death. Actually, Meredith suffocated on her own blood, but it was still used to claim Amanda's prior knowledge of the crime.

And Ms. Houle mentioned a dream Ms. Knox had that President Obama greeted her home again. Really now! Couldn't Amanda have a dream in prison about the glorious day she would get out without guilters complaining about the president being in her dream?

3. For Ms. Knox's need for stimulation characteristic, Ms. Houle referred to an article in the Daily Mail that didn't cite sources. Supposedly, Ms. Knox rented a fraternity house. The article said that the noise misdemeanor was a crime, but the officer who responded to a disturbance of the peace call did not witness rock throwing. He only found rocks in the street. And if he found the riot and orgy described in the Daily Mail article as being Ms. Knox's fault, she and other underage party goers would have been arrested for certain. Amanda was not arrested. If the officer found such a riotous orgy why wasn't it in his report? If there really were anonymous students supposedly reporting the mayhem, they must have been the ones doing it. Also, why wouldn't any student be excited about going abroad to study away from the limitations of home? What made Amanda so different?

4. The alleged lies of Ms. Knox never seemed to have any importance. Guilters like Ms. Houle seize on any discrepancy and call it a lie. Ms. Houle quoted Dr. Kiehl that the white lie or social lie is not important, but she repeated a story alleged by a cell mate that Ms. Knox claimed to be a vegetarian when the mother of another cell mate brought salami and procuitto to them. Supposedly, there were a lot of journalists present to hear her say that. Why would that be? It's not clear to me who the liar really is. There are always other inmates in prison who want to demean those they don't like.

Ms. Houle repeated Ms. Knox telling Meredith's British friends that she discovered Meredith's body. She did call attention to the peculiar circumstances surrounding Meredith's door being locked. So why is that anything more than a vague wording?

Supposedly, Mr. Sollecito denied that Ms. Knox was with him the early part of the evening of the night that Meredith was killed. This of course contradicted the statement the police forced him to sign which in turn contradicted the testimony of Jovana Popovic. Why would it matter where she was in the early evening since the prosecutor determined Meredith died much closer to midnight? But Ms. Houle considered Ms. Knox's claim to have been with Mr. Sollecito that night to have been a lie.

So what if Ms. Houle considered Ms. Knox's claims of interrogation abuse to be a lie? Ms. Knox's First Memorandum was certainly not the product of a state of mind that could have understood the lies the police had just forced her to sign. So how did she get so confused given the good treatment the police claimed she received? What difference does it make that she could not remember the names of which policemen did what to her at the time. There were 12 of them signed to the interrogation report.

The defense proved that Raffaele had called the Carabinieri before the Postal Police arrived.

Amanda didn't lie when she tried to answer the question of whether Meredith locked her door. It was Raffaele who got confused trying to translate for the others what she said in English.

Ms. Houle thought it was a lie that Ms. Knox said Mr. Sollecito was just comforting her when it appeared that Ms. Houle that Ms. Knox initiated the kissing. How would Mr. Sollecito know she needed comforting if she didn't initiate the kissing? Maybe Ms. Houle is so gorgeous that she never had to initiate a kiss.

How did Ms. Houle decide that Ms. Knox was wrong about becoming friends with Meredith because of what Stephanie Kercher said Meredith said she had a quarrel with Ms. Knox? Stephanie said Meredith didn't make a big deal out of the quarrel nor even mentioned what it was about. Considering how Ms. Knox is accused of being so insensitive to others, what is the proof that she even noticed the quarrel?

There was no way Ms. Knox in her right mind would have accused Patrick Lumumba of leaving his bar to kill Meredith. Ms. Knox is accused of using Patrick to protect Guede whom she had no contact with. Or alternatively, she is accused of accusing Patrick to divert attention away from herself, but if that were the case, wouldn't it make more sense to accuse Guede or the drug dealer she supposedly bought cocaine from and who would be more likely believed to have committed the murder than Patrick. The accusation of Lumumba was the lie of the police who coerced Amanda into believing it.

I'm a little surprised that Ms. Houle didn't list as a lie Ms. Knox's claiming Meredith's body was discovered in the wardrobe. Of course then Ms. Houle would have to explain why she manipulated that fact in her section on Ms. Knox's grandiose sense of self-worth. So it's double the hypocrasy that Ms. Houle accused Ms Knox of manipulation because Ms. Knox wrote a book about her experiences with the Italian police and Judiciary.

5. Ms. Houle was manipulating facts when she wrote that Ms. Knox was only "provisionally acquitted" when she negotiated a book deal. Ms. Knox was also only "provisionally" convicted by the trial court. And what did Ms. Houle mean by writing that Ms. Knox skipped over the events of the day Meredith's body was discovered? Ms. Knox did write about being with Raffaele the night before and what they did. She did write about going to the cottage apartment and discovering strange clues and the locked door. Was Ms. Houle expecting Ms. Knox to give a blow by blow account of what happened to Meredith when she was murdered? Ms. Knox was not there to witness that.

Why wouldn't Ms. Knox have been shocked when the Nencini court convicted her again? Just because she knew it could happen doesn't keep it from being a shock when it did happen. And who cares if Ms. Houle called Ms. Knox unrepentant? We already know that Ms. Houle is convinced that Ms. Knox is guilty.

Where in Ms. Knox's January 30, 2014 statement did she claim double jeopardy? Why did Ms. Houle expect Ms. Knox to explain the three levels of the Italian Judiciary to express her disappointment in the re-conviction? After all, Ms. Knox had explained it already in her book in Chapter 31. So who is really manipulative here?

Guilters like Ms. Houle use the accusation of psychopath as proof a defendant can be expected to have committed the crime. Lack of remorse or guilt for crimes a person is proved to have done is a good indication that person is a psychopath, but lack of remorse or guilt for a crime a defendant is accused of is not proof that that defendant did the crime. Ms. Knox did not kill Meredith. So why should Ms. Knox be remorseful or feel guilt for that murder Guede did?

Anything the prison guard Angela Antonelli says is suspect. She claimed to have been Ms. Knox's favorite guard. Ms. Knox wrote many wonderful things about her favorite guard Lupa. If Ms. Antonelli is the guard Ms. Knox called Lupa, then Ms. Antonelli is quite two-faced.

Why did Ms. Antonelli expect Ms. Knox to behave like other inmates? What's so wrong with self-possession, writing letters, singing Beatles songs and playing the guitar? Why did Ms. Antonelli expect Ms. Knox to display her depression at being incarcerated the same way other inmates did?

It's also strange how different Ms. Knox's book account of leaving the prison is from what Ms. Antonelli claims. One major difference is that Ms. Knox didn't mention in her book that the guard Lupa was present for her leaving the prison. Either Ms. Knox had figured out Ms. Antonelli's duplicity, or Ms. Antonelli simply wasn't there to witness Ms. Knox leaving.

Like other guilters, Ms. Houle thinks that Ms. Knox could recant two whole statements the police forced her to sign without having retracted the accusation of Patrick that was part of each of them. Ms. Houle is incorrect in stating that Ms. Knox never apologized to Patrick Lumumba for how those statements were used against him. Ms. Knox did tell him in her statement before the Hellmann Court that she was sorry. Just what did Ms. Houle think Ms. Knox could have her mother do when she told Edda that Patrick Lumumba was innocent? Edda was not a witness to Patrick Lumumba's innocence. nor an alibi for him. Neither was Amanda since she wasn't with Patrick Lumumba or at the murder.

7. Of course Ms. Knox blames the police for brainwashing her into accusing Patrick Lumumba. The police were so intent on getting her to self-incriminate herself that they were willing to use Patrick Lumumba to get her to do it. So what if she did not offer an apology or volunteer compensation to him during her testimony. The prosecution would have immediately used it as evidence against her. And why should she be the one who compensates Patrick Lumumba for the lie the police made her believe about him?

8. Why is it callous and lacking in empathy to display normal disposition? Of course Meredith's murder was horrible, but why expect Amanda to wallow in depression about it always?  It's strange that Amanda is criticized for the imaginary hostility between her and Meredith, but also criticized for wanting to honor Meredith.

 Ms. Houle ignored that the Kerchers have rejected any attempt Ms. Knox has tried to make to show sympathy concerning Meredith's murder. Ms. Houle can claim Ms. Knox does not stop people claiming to support her from attacking the Kercher family, but Ms. Knox doesn't control anybody who supports her. Even if she could monitor everything said about her, she could not contact all these people even if she knew everything the guilters might object to. It's not reasonable to expect her to make a public display of such admonition anyhow.
It's irrelevant when Amanda opened her Twitter account, but why should using dice to show the dates of her arrest and release be offensive to the Kerchers? Also, just what are these atrocious attacks of the Kerchers that were perpetrated by commenters on Amanda's blog? Was it just talking about things the Kerchers said about Amanda?

As an example of Ms. Knox being callous without empathy, being upbeat and smiling before going on trial for a brutal murder is quite irrelevant. The case against her was so ridiculous that it is hard to believe Mignini was serious, but then she is upset by Amanda's self-control during testimony. Why wouldn't she control her emotions while being questioned in testimony? It's a solemn occasion?

Then Ms. Houle turned her argument around and accused Ms. Knox of being an ice queen. What does that mean anyhow? Why wouldn't Ms. Knox have thought the police interest in her was because she was closer to Meredith than Filomena and Laura were. After all, Ms. Knox was closer to Meredith's age and had the room right next to Meredith's in the cottage apartment.

Most people do get over the death of an acquaintance, friend, or even a family member. It's what we do or descend into a debilitating depression. It is very callous without empathy for Ms. Houle to expect Ms. Knox to be forever dwelling on Meredith's death. And there was absolutely no way Ms. Knox could discuss anything about Meredith with another prisoner. Anything she might have said about Meredith would have been used by the prosecutor as evidence against her. That certainly would have included anything she wrote to Mr. Sollecito.

What right did the Kerchers have to request anything concerning the behavior of Ms. Knox and Mr. Sollecito? It was quite callous and lacking of empathy of Ms. Houle to expect Ms. Knox to refrain from writing a book about her experiences with the Italian police and judiciary and from protesting her innocence from the false accusations. It was not any of the Kerchers' business what day Ms. Knox opened her Twitter account, and Ms. Houle only drew attention to it by complaining that it was Meredith's birthday. Even if many guilters perceive Ms. Knox's music video showing the dates of her arrest and release from prison as harassing Meredith's family, it is vague how that makes Ms. Knox callous and without empathy. Essentially, anything Ms. Knox expresses in her own defense is perceived as callous and without empathy. That's ridiculous.

Again, Ms. Knox cannot control who tweets what on Twitter to the Kerchers. Why do the Kerchers or guilters have the right to censor what is said about the Kerchers on Ms. Knox's own blog? If the Kerchers did something Ms. Knox's supporters are talking about, why should they complain even if it is criticism of whatever they did? I suppose the Kerchers have a right to be callous and lacking of empathy toward Ms. Knox, but it seems hypocritical to accuse Ms. Knox of being a psychopath for doing the same thing to them.

9. I suppose that most young people going to school are living a parasitic lifestyle, but what is Ms. Houle's point in criticizing Ms. Knox for her lack of work experience since she spent nearly four years in an Italian prison? I'm actually surprised that Ms. Houle is not questioning where Ms. Knox is getting money for her "lavish" lifestyle since her legal fees have left her deeply in debt in spite of the book advance, donations, and whatever speaking fees she may have earned. (It's not at all certain that she was paid for all those interviews. Don't guilters claim that the purpose of those interviews is to indoctrinate the public of her innocence?)

However much Ms. Houle wants to predict Amanda's parasitic lifestyle, it's not Amanda's fault that she had not finished school for four years and had not found full time employment. Far from descending into a criminal career, Amanda seems to do quite well.

10. How strange of Ms. Houle to quote prison guard Angela Antonelli about Ms. Knox's "almost astonishing degree of self-possession" and then turned to listing the ways Ms. Knox had poor behavioral controls. What does being different have to do with behavioral controls? What had the disc jockey done that made Ms. Knox angry with him? Did anyone tell Ms. Knox that her behavior while waiting to be questioned by the police would be used against her in a court of law?

Investigator Edgardo Giobbi was not talking about taking Ms. Knox into Meredith's room. They were going into the downstairs apartment of the four guys. Maybe it would have been peculiar for Giobbi to have done a little display of his shoe covers and uttering a "ta-dah" on putting those shoe covers on, but Ms. Knox was a 20 year old girl who had never put them on before. The other two "peculiar" behaviors he remembered as his probable cause to suspect were her breaking down into sobs on entering the apartment cottage where Meredith died, and being found eating pizza with Mr. Sollecito in a café. Now how can he find her behavior improper in one case because she didn't take seriously going into an apartment where the blood was officially from a cat, but finding it improper for Amanda to break down on entering the apartment where her friend died. Before, Ms. Houle used Angele Antonelli's account that Ms. Knox never cried as evidence of lack of remorse or guilt, but in this instance with Giobbi, would Ms. Houle consider it proof of poor behavioral controls?

11. The peculiarity of Ms. Knox's love life is not that she equated sex with love, but that she equated sex with adult behavior.

Ms. Houle is wrong that Amanda slept with another man while she was in the relationship with Raffaele. How was she when she and Raffaele were always together? Don't guilters claim the 5th Chamber claimed that where Amanda was, Raffaele would be there also? It's hard for me to understand Amanda's concept of casual sex, but it seems to have to do with her idea that maturity includes sexual behavior. Amanda hadn't made marital commitments, but she was not completely unemotional about her relationships with men. She has been criticized for saying she hadn't fallen in love before meeting Raffaele because she wrote love letters to DJ. Those "love" letters do express affection and concern, but not commitment. Are all women who have not committed to marriage psychopaths? No, and the same goes for men who have not committed to marriage.

If Ms. Houle had read Ms. Knox's book, she would have understood that Ms. Knox came to realize that what was missing from casual sex was love. Ms. Knox  expressed that with each casual sexual encounter, she realized that something was missing because it was impersonal. That doesn't sound very psychopathic at all.

12. Lots of people grew up in divorced families where there were problems with custody and child support. That doesn't make Amanda a psychopath.

Punching out the bully does demonstrate that at the age of seven, Ms. Knox had an aggressive nature which Ms. Houle admitted Ms. Knox later channeled into soccer. Team sports is not a characteristic of a psychopath. It doesn't prove she had a short temper, and since she did it to protect her sister from torment from the bully, it doesn't show she did it for being a psychopath. A psychopath wouldn't have cared.

13.How did Ms. Houle expect Amanda to have long term goals while in prison? From Ms. Houle's point of view, Ms. Knox's long term goal of clearing her name of the murder charge was an unrealistic goal, but Ms. Knox has achieved it. Starting a family is not so farfetched anymore. She has several occupations to keep her busy, and her commitment to the innocence project is something she can continue for a long time.

14. Ms. Knox did not go to Perugia, Italy on an impulse. She had been thinking about it since high school. She didn't have the resources that Meredith had. Why should that be held against Amanda? Regardless of how prestigious the ERASMUS program Meredith was part of, Ms. Knox did the research necessary to find the school she wanted to study Italian in. She had reasons for wanting to go to Perugia. She knew she wanted to study Italian and experience it with native speakers.  Maybe Ms. Knox was "winging it" compared to Meredith, but they ended up in Perugia and in the same cottage apartment together. So Ms. Knox's plans worked that far. Maybe those who are not named speculated that Amanda was going to Perugia for legal alcohol said so because that's what they would have done. Amanda chose Perugia because it was not a big city like Rome, and she could get a better feel for Italian culture. The nonsense about Amanda copying Laura's pierced ears is petty. Girls that age do exchange ideas about adornments. What's the emphasis on impulsivity in any of this? That said, a big part of Ms. Knox's charm is her unpredictable impulsivity. Unfortunately she seems to be losing it as she gets older. We all do.

15. What did irresponsibility have to do with Ms. Knox going to Germany to see her aunt and uncle? Since she knew nothing about the job her uncle arranged for her, she probably didn't know he was arranging it for her. Even after she found where the office was, they didn't seem to have anything for her to do, and she was coming down with a relapse of flu she had had for a few days before the job started. What's interesting is that Amanda was upset because she thought quitting the job might have put her uncle in trouble. This is not the lack of empathy Ms. Houle struggled to demonstrate earlier.

Also, it was because Amanda attracted customers that Patrick Lumumbia hired her. He didn't say anything about her talking and flirting with customers until after she was arrested. The same goes for his supposed decision to fire her and hiring Meredith instead. Apparently he thought all this up when she told him she would have to stop working because of all the publicity she had gotten being interviewed by the police.

It's hard to believe Patrick Lumumba didn't hire Ms. Knox to attract customers to his bar, Le Chic. Part of her job was to go out into the town and hand out fliers to get people to come to the bar. She found it disturbing to have to flirt with customers since she worried about some man taking the flirting the wrong way and getting rough with her when she disappointed him.

16. Why is it Amanda's responsibility that the police brainwashed her into accusing Patrick Lumumba? Her lawyers did advise her against apologizing to him for how the police used the words they typed in Italian for her to sign.

Ms. Knox did apologize to Patrick Lumumba in her statement before the Hellmann Court for the way the statements she signed were used against him, but why should she take responsibility for the brainwashing the police did to her to convince her that Patrick Lumumba was guilty? It was not the forced statements she said she was not pressured to sign. She could only deny being with him and deny being at the murder. Since she was not at the murder, she could not say who was or was not there.

 It was her First and Second Memorandum that she testified she was not pressured to sign. Of course she has steadfastly rebuked all evidence against her for the murder since it was all discredited and she knew it was false to begin with. It's too bad that Ms. Houle doesn't like that Ms. Knox feels exonerated by the Fifth Chamber's acquittal of the case against her.

17. If Ms. Knox refused a marriage proposal from Raffaele Sollecito, that is hardly a short-term marital relationship. No matter how many relationships she has had that didn't result in marriage, they don't constitute a short-term marital relationship. She has never agreed to marry anyone until recently. She now has a fiancée, and this looks like a long term relationship. What more can anyone expect of her generation? Is that what this is all about?

Amanda did have many relationships that didn't result in marriage. That isn't the same thing as many short term marriages. Are all people who have short term non-marital relationships psychopaths? No.

18. Ms. Knox did not receive a ticket for violence at the party she was throwing. She got a noise citation. The policeman who responded to a disturbance of the peace call did not see anyone throwing rocks. He only saw rocks in the street. If the riotous orgy had really occurred as asserted by Ms. Houle, why didn't the police officer record that in his report. He didn't even mention the calling of reinforcements that was alleged. If there really were students talking about the mayhem, they must have been the ones there doing it.

What is important about the April Fools prank Ms. Knox pulled on her housemate was that no window was broken. It was just a joke that was revealed immediately. The broken window in Filomena's room was only said to have been staged because a bag of clothes had fallen over on its own before the broken glass scattered on top of those clothes. The glass broke inward as would be expected from a stone being thrown in through the window, and the inner shutter was battered with embedded glass as would be expected from an inward bound stone also. There were large pieces of glass on the window sill that would have dropped straight down from being broken off but not pushed ahead of the stone, and no glass fell to the ground outside as not glass would have been pushed that way by an inward bound stone. The lack of marks on the outside wall do not prove that Guede did not climb up the wall, but a scoff on the corner of the lower window in a police photo does show that Guede used that window to get that far up before reaching for the upper window sill.

The footprint Ms. Knox left when she stepped into Filomena's room on finding the window broken was tested for DNA. The window and the rest of the room was not checked for DNA. How do we know that Guede's DNA was not on that window or in the rest of the room?

19. Ms. Houle admits that revocation of conditional release is not a factor of suspecting Amanda of being a psychopath. She goes on to relate a quote from Dr. Kiehl as though being released from prison will end in Amanda failing some sort of trust. Maybe Ms. Houle thinks that being acquitted of murder doesn't prove Amanda is not a psychopath. Of course Ms. Houle wants to use the speculation that Amanda is a psychopath to declare her compatible with being a murderer.

Ms. Knox and Mr. Sollecito have been released from prison since 2011. They have been exonerated since March 2015. They have not committed any crimes in all that time. Will Ms. Houle hold out for future crimes until both of them have died from natural causes?

20. Ms. Knox's April Fools prank was not a crime. If guilters contend that Guede was never convicted of a criminal act, where is the conviction for this?  It was only a theory Mignini proposed that Ms. Knox obtained cocaine. Amanda did use marijuana, but in the U.S. that is a misdemeanor and not a crime. It may be a crime in Italy, but marijuana use was never a crime Amanda was ever charged with. It doesn't seem to be a crime that anyone is charged with in Italy.

 It was never proved. Ms. Knox is responsible for the false accusation against Patrick Lumumba that the police convinced her was true. Ms. Knox has no control over her supporters who may have harassed the Kercher family. And last but not least, the guilty verdicts for the murder of Meredith Kercher were annulled. She never did the crime to begin with. Regardless of the various crimes she has been accused of, she had no criminal behavior to be treated for. Ms. Houle cannot assert that Ms. Knox is a psychopath because there is no real treatment options for Ms. Knox since there was nothing for her to be treated for to begin with.

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Guilters like Ms. Houle allege drug addiction for a motive to expect Ms. Knox to have killed Meredith. There is no proof that Ms. Knox used anything but marijuana. People just nod to sleep with marijuana. There is no proof that Ms. Knox stole Meredith's rent money. Since motive is not necessary to prove murder, motive alone is not sufficient to prove it. What did Ms. Knox have to do with this account Dr. Kiehl gave of a known killer explaining why she had killed someone? Dr. Kiehls account did not prove this killers guilt from her being a psychopath. He proved her being a psychopath from her psychopathic reason for killing someone. Saying that IF Amanda Knox is a psychopath, her reason for killing Meredith MAY be the same is not proving anything at all.



Liz Houle's Obsession With Amanda Knox

https://truecrimespodcasts.com/2014/12/24/amanda-knoxs-obsession-with-meredith-kercher/#more-8516

Liz Houle is obsessed with Amanda Knox. Why does she keep repeating lies about Amanda? Is it because Ms. Houle is jealous of Amanda's abilities as a journalist? Amanda actually writes articles that are published in several media outlets. Ms. Houle has been incompatible with several sites and had to resort to creating her own for expressing her nonsense.

There was no competition between Amanda and Meredith. Maybe Meredith took exception to Amanda having known Meredith's boyfriend, Giacomo Silenzi, before Meredith did, but Amanda had no hangups about that. She was doing just fine with Raffaele, the son of a doctor. Amanda had her own language abilities. She was learning Italian her own way. Maybe Meredith had had more academic study of Italian, but Amanda was learning from her limited academic base insisting on talking Italian with Italy's people.

Meredith's friends did think Amanda was strange partly for this insistence of talking in Italian. But it was also that free spirited Amanda didn't fit in with their British mentality. Amanda didn't expect Meredith to avoid her own friends, but she did offer to spend time with Meredith on Halloween. She tried to keep up with Meredith by text messages that night, but that doesn't mean she tried to monopolize Meredith's time.

Ms. Houle often resorts to saying what the "many" believe about things, but Meredith was not avoiding Amanda that Halloween. Meredith expressed to her friends that she felt bad about not getting together with Amanda. There's nothing but speculation that hostility between the two blew up into murder the next night.

The video "Some Say" that Meredith appears in is quite different from the video "Mistral Blows" that Amanda wrote. "Some Say" seems to be about a party, while "Mistral Blows" is about a prison. Parties must have been what Meredith was used to while Amanda had prisons on her mind at the time. Meredith is coming into the party while Amanda is escaping from the prison. The scenes that Ms. Houle says are eerily similar are totally insignificant to the two stories, but the scene shots don't look alike at all. Also, the band instead of providing dance music as in the video Meredith was in, the band in Amanda's video becomes a weapon for defeating the zombies.

Amanda had always wanted to become a writer. That's why she took the creative writing class in which she wrote the short story that was reported on so much by guilters. If Ms. Houle is upset by all the free PR Amanda has gotten for being falsely accused of murder, it's guilters who brought attention to her writing. It's guilters who created the demand for reports on Amanda. Meredith's association with journalism had nothing to do with Amanda's choice of occupation. She didn't direct any of the news about her profession toward the Kerchers.

Amanda has her own life to lead, but however the Kercher family feels about it, Amanda did spend a month as Meredith's roommate. Meredith's death did affect Amanda, and Amanda has her own needs to cope with that. They may find it disturbing to deal with Amanda's need to grieve for Meredith, but Amanda is not seeking revenge on them for not responding. From what Meredith's British friends say about Meredith, it would seem questionable whether Meredith actually liked Amanda. But whether Meredith was deceiving Amanda or not, Amanda thought of Meredith as her friend.

@Annella seems to have been suspended from Twitter because she tweeted messages to members of the Kercher family. Only tweets that guilters like Ms. Houle seems to have made screen shots of are available to demonstrate this. I don't know why Annella tweeted the Kerchers since I cannot see their tweets to know what Annella may have been replying to. The tweets Ms. Houle provides do not seem offensive except that the Kerchers didn't want to be bothered. That the Kerchers have discontinued their Twitter accounts was probably a good thing for that reason. If they don't say anything about Amanda, nobody has reason to say anything about it to them.

It is unfortunate that Meredith's mother thinks Meredith's murder was because of Amanda's supposed jealousy of Meredith. It's also unfortunate that Ms. Houle thought it proper to bring up Arline Kercher's comment. It's not just that Arline Kercher fails to see Amanda Knox as a real person, but she also fails to consider Rudy Guede for what he did to Meredith. Why is it so easy to imagine Amanda doing the unimaginably horribly things that guilters don't want to consider Guede as having done? The evidence points only to Guede having been in Meredith's room. His shoe prints and hand prints were in that room. So why is Amanda supposed to share his guilt?

Wednesday, September 28, 2016

Liz Houle's Twitter Gripes

https://truecrimespodcast.wordpress.com/2014/12/12/team-amanda-knox-twitter-farts/?iframe=true&theme_preview=true#more-8488

Most of Liz Houle's gripes about tweets of Amanda Knox's supporters are ridiculous.

Ms. Houle like many guilters complains bitterly about the PR firm Marriott Gogerty (or Gogerty Marriott.) There is no conspiracy involving the PR firm. There was no way that the PR firm could have hired all the people to tweet and post on social media as guilters allege. Ms. Houle claimed that some Amanda supporters were abusive in their comments. This is hardly surprising since some guilters behaved the same way.

Regardless of what Ms. Houle contended, no guilter's account was suspended simply because that guilter expressed opinions that Amanda Knox was guilty. I'm sure there were accounts both pro-Amanda and pro-guilt that were suspended for abusive behavior, but that is not the result of PR firm intrusion. Complaining to the monitor is a common occurrence. It doesn't usually lead to any action.

It is a bit hypocritical of Ms. Houle to complain about guilters not being able to express themselves when she won't publish any comments critical of her opinions.

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Was the suspension of @velorg's account supposed to be Ms. Houle's example of Amanda Knox supporters getting @velorg thrown out of twitter?  The allusion to Meredith's body is distasteful, but the tweet does point out that guilters do use Meredith's name and image in speaking for her. Would Meredith really like being used to spread lies? I don't like what @velorg , but I don't think it was just that that got her account suspended. If you search for @velorg on twitter, you'll find lots of people tweeting their frustration with @velorg who weren't commenting on Amanda Knox.

Can Meredith really rest in peace while guilters continue to falsely accuse Amanda and Raffaele in Meredith's name? @Annella's tweet to Meredith Kercher is strange, but guilters accuse Amanda Knox of disturbing Meredith Kercher's peace by protesting her (Amanda Knox's) innocence. Of course since @Annella's account has been suspended, Ms. Houle's screen shot may be the only record of that tweet still being published. I don't know why @Annella's account was suspended, but I don't see why this tweet would have been a reason for that. @Annella tweeted about the Meredith's family, but did not tweet them directly. If the Kerchers want closure, they will have to come to grips with the innocence of Amanda and Raffaele.

Did Ms. Houle think that @Annella's account was suspended because she lost respect for the Kercher family when Stephanie Kercher expressed the opinion that Amanda Knox should be sent back to Italy to serve her prison sentence before the Nencini verdict was confirmed by the Italian Supreme Court? Who cares that @Annella expressed this comment? How was @Annella threatening the Kercher family with her lack of respect? More to the point, why should an Amanda supporter have to show respect for guilters when guilters don't show respect for Amanda supporters? It's not for Liz Houle to dictate whom Annella has respect for. If the Kerchers advocate the wrongful accusations against Amanda and Raffaele, then why should anyone respect them for that?

Ms. Houle had the reverse sense of what @Gman_Moore was really saying. Steve Moore was not threatening anyone with tweets from Brits He was warning @DarrenKavinoky of the hate tweets from the UK for whatever @DarrenKavinoky tweeted.

Ralf Lotan or Ralf P. Loserth is not an Amanda supporter. He was just interested in Saul Kassin's video "False confessions corrupt other evidence." He has the two accounts, @LotanPsych and @captainsnackbar, because he uses them for two different audiences.These two tweets are his only tweets having to do with Amanda Knox or Raffaele Sollecito. Ms. Houle is wrong to think Mr. Loserth was trying to deceive @Noel_0409 with those tweets. @Noel_0409 has interests similar to Ralf P. Loserth, but seems more involved in defending Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito.

Liz Houle has the order of David Ralston's tweets reversed. He expressed his anger at @Red_Oak before he offered to take the discussion to messaging. I couldn't pull up @Red_Oak's tweet to know what riled up David Ralston. I suspect that @Red_Oak no longer exists as an account. The @red_oak account that exists has nothing to do with arguments over Amanda Knox.

Doug Bremner's comparison to what the Nazis did to Jews and Gypsies to what the Kerchers did to Amanda Knox is extreme, but what I'd like to know is what the Kerchers did do to Amanda Knox. Do they fund True Justice for Meredith Kercher that John Kercher advocated in his book? Do they condone the lies that are told about Amanda Knox? If so, Mr. Bremner's exasperation is warranted.

Who is this Life of Rudy Guede going by @RudyGuede and who is @Da_B_Man8 he was replying to? Neither are Twitter accounts. What does this Rudy Guede saying anything have to do with Amanda supporters? Whatever was he talking about?

Given the conversation Ms. Houle screen shot, it appears that someone impersonated @Gman_Moore. Somehow, trolls can impersonate people on social media. I've never had this happen to me on Twitter, but it has happened to me elsewhere on social media. Of course since Steve Moore is an Amanda Knox supporter, the impersonator is likely an Amanda Knox guilter.

Isn't it strange to criticize @Exonerate_Knox for downplaying the cuts, bruises, and stabs that Meredith suffered when It was the police, prosecutors, and judges already ruled that Meredith Kercher didn't have enough "defensive" wounds. The tweet looks like sarcasm to me. @Exonerate_Knox was making a point that would seem to be out of place, but what was that tweeter replying to?

How would anyone "take over" a hashtag? All Noel, and TheManFromAtlan were talking about was keeping guilters from controling the hashtag AK. It's hypocritical to complain about this when guilters have complained about Amanda supporters using it. Of course Ms. Houle seemed to think it was a conspiracy for Amanda supporters to use the hash tag #amandaknox .

Why does it matter that Maddona may have been offended by Michelle Moore's tweet that "Some of the Italians involved were prejudiced against Americans, especially white girls. It's racism" Was Madonna really offended by @mechellesings' post because @mechellesings was using her picture for a profile picture? I don't see why accusing Italians involved the case against Amanda Knox of prejudice would have meant anything to Madonna. Italians did express prejudice against Amanda because of her casual sex. And a lot of guilters accuse her of racism because they think she was acquitted by being a white girl.



Hypocrisy! As many times as guilters have photo-shopped fake pictures of Amanda Knox, why should Ms. Houle complain that @tttmon had a picture with Meredith and Amanda together? What really upset Ms. Houle is the implication that Meredith and Amanda were friends. Regardless of what Meredith's friends and family say about it now, the hostility Amanda was alleged to have had for Meredith was never proved. Meredith's friends didn't like Amanda, but that isn't proof that Meredith didn't like Amanda.


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Again, Liz Houle complained about the PR firm, Mariott Gogerty. She exaggerates what they do. The #AmandaKnox hashtag may be a battleground between Amanda supporters and guilters, but more likely it's the guilters who are provocative, abusive and downright sneaky.

There might be a reason besides pay that there may be more Amanda supporters than guilters on Twitter. The truth is on our side. We don't have to be paid to know it. Maybe there were guilters who were suspended, but twitter would have suspended them for the same reasons they suspended Amanda supporters.

Liz Houle Thrown Under The Bus

https://truecrimespodcast.wordpress.com/2014/12/19/amanda-knox-ex-beau-distances-himself-from-her-as-he-returns-to-court-next-month/?iframe=true&theme_preview=true#more-212

It is questionable whether Judge Claudio Pratillo Hellmann necessarily thought anything about Ms. Knox's or Mr. Sollecito's innocence as Liz Houle speculated. She implied that he did not believe in their innocence, but the full quote from the Guardian is:

"Speaking just two days after he and his fellow judges handed down a full acquittal on appeal, Judge Claudio Pratillo Hellmann, said the court's verdict 'is the result of the truth that was created in the proceedings. But the real truth may be different. They may be responsible, but the evidence is not there.'"

That sounds more like he was willing to accommodate those who still had suspicions, but was not willing to agree with them.

It's strange that Ms. Houle said that Mr. Sollecito claimed to have saved Ms. Knox from being "thrown under the bus," when he acknowledged in his book that he had unwittingly withdrawn his alibi for her. He had managed to object to the part of the statement he was forced to sign that read that Ms. Knox had convinced him of her facts, but he was unable to get the police to change the wording. He said simply didn't notice that there was in addition to a section that said she wasn't with him in his apartment. The statement claimed that Ms. Knox had not returned with him to his apartment at 9 PM, but instead said she was going to Le Chic. This is contradicted by Jovana Popovic who saw both Ms. Knox and Mr. Sollecito twice between 8 PM and 9 PM.

Mr. Sollecito's book is full of eye-opening statements, and the slander lawsuit based on them was dismissed. So in spite of Ms. Houle opinions, Raffaele's book does corroborate what Ms. Knox said about her own abusive interrogation. The two abusive interrogations did happen.

Liz Houle's last sentence did catch my eye:

"Whether or not they will result in a conviction of slander against the prosecutor and police will be determined next month."

What I wonder is whether Raffaele will succeed in getting a slander conviction against the prosecutor and police.



https://truecrimespodcasts.com/2014/12/19/amanda-knox-ex-beau-distances-himself-from-her-as-he-returns-to-court-next-month/comment-page-1/#comment-572

Tuesday, September 27, 2016

Liz Houle's Meredith Obsession

https://truecrimespodcast.wordpress.com/2014/12/24/amanda-knoxs-obsession-with-meredith-kercher/?iframe=true&theme_preview=true#more-8516

Just how did Liz Houle arrive at the conclusion that Amanda Knox had a sense of superiority from one comment to Meredith? Young women do talk about each other's boyfriends, and Ms. Knox may only have meant that she thought Giocomo Silenzi was a nice guy when she told Meredith that she liked Mr. Silenzi also. She might have been displaying disdain for him when she told Meredith that she could have him, or more likely, she was indicating that she was no rival for him. We may never know since Barbie Nadeau whose book, Angel Face, that Ms. Houle was referring to was quoting what Meredith's British friends said Meredith told them. Those British friends didn't like Amanda, and may have been exerating how upset Meredith was about the incident.

What's interesting also is that Barbie Nadeau went on to say:

"Meredith and Amanda were not the polar opposites later descrived by prosecutors."

Ms. Nadeau detailed how very similar Meredith and Amanda were including that they both liked to smoke pot, get drunk, and flirt.

Ms. Houle followed the familiar guilter line that there was hostility between Amanda and Meredith, but if that were so, why did Amanda try so hard to meet with Meredith on Halloween as Ms. Houle insisted? Ms. Houle wanted it to seem as though all the text messages Amanda sent Meredith indicate her obsession with Meredith's better social skills. But more likely it was Amanda's sincere interest to do something together with Meredith.

Yes, Meredith's friends had never really liked Amanda. So what so different about her behavior that they disliked that was so suspicious after the murder? Amanda was still her uninhibited self before and after the murder.

Ms. Houle can believe along with the anonymous many she referred to that Meredith's avoiding Amanda on Halloween night is what provoked Amanda, but what really happened was that Meredith had other plans for Halloween. It takes this hypothetical hostility in Amanda to expect her to react with murderous rage that was never evident at any time.

I don't know what Amanda's screenplay "The Mistral" really simbolizes in Amanda's mind, and I don't think Ms. Houle is qualified to make that determination either. Ms. Houle looked at the screenplay as an illustration of Amanda's obsession and comptetitiveness with Meredith, but it may more likely be a way of grieving for her friend. As the creativity required to write this screenplay indicates, Amanda was just as talented as Meredith was, and she had nothing to be jealous of Meredith for.

Ms. Houle made it seem as though Amanda had and maybe still has control over how the media reports stories about her. It's not likely that it was Amanda who induces all those newspapers to carry stories about her. The hypocritical interest in stories about Amanda Knox that keeps the media reporting them is the guilters themselves. Who else around the world needs such coverage? Amanda's supporters would have private means of informing each other about what's going on with Amanda.

Regardless of what Ms. Houle thought and thinks is Amanda's hidden agenda in taking up journalism, it had more to do with Amanda's continuing interest in creative writing than with the journalism of Meredith's father, John Kercher.

It's confusing that Ms. Houle considered anything Amanda did as exhibiting her obsession with Meredith. Amanda has been harshly criticized for saying that she only knew Meredith for a month and wants to get on with her life. Guilters expect Amanda to be completely overwhelmed with grief forever, but they think it's crass for her to want to share her memories of Meredith with the Kercher family.

Ms. Houle admitted that Amanda doesn't seem to be the tweeter, Annella, who sent the Kercher family many unwanted tweets, but Ms. Houle asserted that Amanda is "exacting her revenge on the Kercher family via social media." The @Annella account was suspended, but I question how Amanda Knox is reponsible for whatever @Annella said to get suspended. Even if Amanda were following this account, Amanda had over 200 accounts she was following. She could not have reviewed all the tweets this many people were making. How can Amanda be held responsible for such a tacit approval as this? And even if she were aware of this person's tweets, why would she have to complain to and discourage this tweeter in public? Amanda could have sent a private message through twitter.

Of course, regardless of Ms. Houle's check-list of Amanda's competition with Meredith, Amanda was acquitted for not having committed the crime. Hopefully, the Kercher family will be able to finally mourn Meredith without further expectation for Amanda to be wrongfully punished.

https://truecrimespodcasts.com/2014/12/24/amanda-knoxs-obsession-with-meredith-kercher/comment-page-1/#comment-568

Was Mignini Exonerated or Merely acquitted?

https://truecrimespodcasts.com/2014/12/04/amanda-knox-prosecutor-giuliano-mignini-cleared-of-all-charges/#more-210

How was Mignini doing his job by bringing this ridiculous case against Amanda and Raffaele? What was his obsession with Amanda that drove him to agree to coercing her into accusing Patrick Lumumba that the police had to have known was innocent so that they could Amanda to self-incriminate herself?

All the people who were falsely accused in the Monster of Florence scandal no longer have Mignini to blame for their troubles. Are they likely just to forget about what he did to them? Not any more likely than Amanda and Raffaele will forget the wrongful accusations made against the.

Mignini does have a practice of intimidating critics with lawsuits. He sued Amanda's parents for repeating what Amanda said about the interrogation. So how does abuse get corrected if people are too afraid to say anything about it.

And of course Liz Houle insisted that the Seattle area press was "excessively favorable" to Amanda because of the "powerful influence of her public relations firm Gogerty Marriott." How did Ms. Houle prove the Seattle area press would have published differently without the influence of Gogerty Marriott?

If Mignini was really concerned for the reputation of the Italian Judiciary, he should have come up with a case that wasn't so easy to criticize, or refrained from accusing innocent people for Guede's crimes.

Liz Houle's Patterns of Deception

https://truecrimespodcast.wordpress.com/2014/11/06/patterns-in-the-subconscious-language-of-deception-and-amanda-knox/?iframe=true&theme_preview=true#more-8583

However useful text or verbal analysis may be, it's still generalizations about particular individuals. It's pure speculation that lying uses different parts of the brain than telling the truth. Even if it did, wouldn't a biased person think everything he or she said was truth? Maybe, really outrageous lies are concocted peculiar ways, but what does that have to do with little lies we reflexily state because it's what we are expected to say? Who hasn't replied to "How are you?" with an immediate affirmative response? It's so automatic that we don't notice what we've said anyhow.

So would a lying narcissist be an impossibility since the liar would de-emphasize his or her own presence in conversation? Are morose persons liars since they're so negative? How do liars explain things in simple terms while also using longer and more convoluted sentence structure?

Guilters like Liz Houle love to believe that people they accuse of crimes will behave in manner that will betray their own guilt. Wouldn't the trauma of Meredith's murder and of being wrongfully accused of that murder and having her most intimate thoughts being used against her change how Amanda's subconscious work? Amanda was a very open and naive person before all this injustice happened to her. She was eccentric already when she arrived in Italy, but this horrible experience would have made her more so.

There is no doubt that a huge part of our being is subconscious. Maybe it's 95%, but it may not matter how much it is. A great deal of perception is also subconscious, and that perception can be biased about the behavior the guilter observes.

The story that guilters create from the perceived behavior of defendants can simply be the bias in the guilters' own subconscious.

Most of the indicators that can be used for determining if a person is lying depends on the herd mentality of most people. Since they want to associate with other people, they feel guilt emotion when they try to deceive others. Sociopaths and psychopaths are not bothered with these emotions. So they have no guilt emotions from lying.

Ms. Houle may not accuse Ms. Knox of being a sociopath or a psychopath, but she does latch onto unusual comments Ms. Knox has expressed to try to associate them with the "four common patterns in the subconscious language of deception" that Mr. Noah Zandan described in his video "The Language of Lying." Mr. Zandan's credentials are not in psychiatry or psychology. He's not even in sociology. He has an MBA. I suppose his experience in lying comes from caveat emptor.

The first Amanda Knox comment Ms. Houle analyzed was:
"For all intents and purposes, I was a murderer. Whether I was or not.?"

Ms. Houle first questioned why Ms. Knox didn't just say that she didn't do it. The answer to that is that is what people expect her to say. Guilters still insist that she admit being a murderer. It had not mattered what she said, it was taken as evidence of her guilt. It got their attention when she seemed to say she did do it, and emphasized the point that it was really other people who were saying that. Her statement about being a murderer whether she was or not was meant to make people think. If she had simply said she didn't do it, guilters would simply said she would say that anyhow.

Ms. Houle went on to imply that this Amanda Knox comment correlated with Mr. Zandan's first pattern of deception by referring to oneself in the third person. However, if Mr. Zandan's concept is that referring to oneself in the third person is distancing oneself from the crime, Ms. Knox certainly didn't fit the pattern of deception.

Then Ms. Houle analyzed another Amanda Knox comment:

"I want the truth to come out. I'd like to be reconsidered as a person."

This was in response to the question of the first thing she would like people to know about her. Ms. Houle characterized this reply as mysterious, but why? Ms. Houle wanted this to be an example of Mr. Zandan's fourth pattern of deception by explaining simple things in a convoluted sentence structure as well as the disassociation of the first pattern and the simple phrasing of the third pattern. There's nothing mysterious about Amanda saying she wants the truth to come out so that she will be considered a person again. Guilters have insisted she is only a monster.

Ms. Knox had just published her book expressing how hard it was to endure that people could think she would murder Meredith Kercher. Guilters commonly labeled her in subhuman terms. There's no mystery here. Where was the convoluted sentence structure in that reply? Why would asking people to view her as a person be disassociation, and why is her simple request that people rediscover her as a person a lie?

Mr. Zandan's second pattern of deception is that "Liars tend to be more negative in statements...." Ms. Houle wanted to combine this pattern with the third pattern of using simple terms in analyzing Ms. Knox's reply to something Chris Cuomo said to her:

Cuomo: "...it's no just one thing right? There is the kissing, there is the split, there is the repeated nonchalance [Knox exhibited right after the murder].."

Ms. Houle claimed that Ms. Knox ignored the question, but what was the question? It seemed open-ended to me. What simple story did Ms. Houle think Ms. Knox was supposed to have told Mr. Cuomo? Amanda did not ignore Chris Cuomo's question about the eccentric behavior she displayed right after the murder. She was explaining who she is so that it could be seen why she did the things she did. Of course it could have been Ms. Knox killed by Guede if Ms. Knox had been at the cottage instead of Meredith. Of course Ms. Knox was overcompensating for the upheaval of emotions she felt the day that Meredith's body was discovered. Isn't that what Chris Cuomo was asking about when he referred to behavior that many people found strange?

Ms. Houle's next analysis is unfair. She referred to Ms. Knox being asked by Simon Hattenstone "what two facts she could give that would prove it was impossible" for her to have killed Meredith Kercher. Ms. Houle is being unfair to consider the answer to this question to be the Ms. Knox's deception of distancing herself from the crime. By definition it had to be that. There was no way to answer the question asking for facts that distanced her from the crime. It is also unfair to expect her to answer what facts would exonerate her without using negative statements. No matter what facts they were, they would show that she did NOT commit the crime. And as complicated as the accusations were against her, how did Ms. Houle expect answers that would not also be complicated?

Of course Amanda in saying there was no evidence showing her presence in Meredith's room was distancing herself from the crime. Why does she have to prove it was impossible for her to be guilt? There's no proof that she was guilty. As I said, guilters would have taken her denial of guilt to mean she did it.

Ms. Houle ended her exposition with something Ms. Knox said in an interview with the Guardian:

“Journalists . . say the argument, ‘With this complicated case you are never going to know what the truth is, no one is ever going to know what the truth is and doesn’t that bother you?’ I’m like, ‘Well [no] I think you can see what the truth is if you really want to see it,'”

Ms. Houle indicated in parentheses that this was an example of all four of Mr. Zandan's patterns of deceptions. What I see is that Ms. Houle herself added the word "no" to Ms. Knox's reply to fit the second pattern. Ms. Houle is forcing Ms. Knox's statements into deceptive correlations. She is just suspicious of Ms. Knox's thought patterns, but that doesn't prove Ms. Knox was being deceptive. It could prove that Ms. Houle is.

I agree with Amanda. As long as you keep complicating the suspicions against Amanda, you won't see the simple truth that Guede did it all by himself. It's the guilters' pattern of deception that I see and not Amanda's.

Sunday, September 18, 2016

Disingenuous of Mr. Ergon to criticize the Documentary "Amanda Knox"

http://www.perugiamurderfile.net/viewtopic.php?p=131019#p131019

It is disingenuous of Mr. Ergon to criticize the Documentary "Amanda Knox" because the producer Morse made posts and tweets about the prosecutor and reporters writing about the case. Guilters love the BBC Documentary "Is Amanda Knox Guilty." The Andrea Vogt who directed that documentary contributes to the website The Murder of Meredith Kercher. I found her documentary misleading and lacking. Is there any reason to suspect the directors Brian Ginn and Rod Blackhurst of bias.

Does Mr. Ergon think that most people are not intelligent enough to realize they are being fed a line? Even if someone is not "familiar" with the case, why wouldn't a neutral party realize something doesn't add up? The question actually is: Why did some people at the premier laugh at reporter Nick Pisa for what he asked Mignini? Was it because they were guilters? It's going to be interesting to see this documentary to see what Mr. Eergon thinks is biased,  misleading, and error-filled.

This documentary is about Amanda Knox. So why is it remarkable that it brings her into view for her comment? In her experience in Italy, she did progress from a dewy eyed blond kid to an innocence activist. So what if the cuts to Ms. Knox set the narrative? It's about her.

Why was Mr. Ergon upset that Mignini was shown expressing himself as a Catholic and a father? Would he have preferred Mignini were discussing how his Monster of Florence investigations were similar to his original theory of a sex game gone wrong? Outside of the obvious moral judgment that murder and rape are wrong, what moral judgment were implied about the evidence that Mignini said he relied on? Did Mignini comment on what Ms. Knox's lifestyle or behavior meant? Why suspect the directors of bias for showing Ms. Knox and Mr. Sollecito insisting they had no motive?

Why did it matter that only a nice video was shown of Meredith? The documentary was about Amanda Knox.

Did Amanda Knox lie when she said Guede had carried out a series of burglaries. There was testimony that he had been arrested for those burglaries in which he had broken in. One homeowner testified Guede threatened him with a knife.

So what if the directors didn't voice questions about Ms. Knox claiming she falsely accused Patrick Lumumba because of police abuse? It is a documentary. The directors were not part of what happened to Ms. Knox. The questions would have to come from the police if they agreed to participate. Mr. Ergon did not make clear if they did.

So what if the Nencinin Court and the First Chamber threw out Conti's and Vecchiotti's findings? Did Conti and Vecchiotti make sense in what they said about "DNA in dust" and "contamination?" Judge Hellmann commissioned their review because Judge Hellmann didn't claim knowledge to review findings of the Scientific Police. Why did Judge Nencini and the First Chamber claim that expertise?

Why claim that nobody spoke from the prosecution side since Mignini was the prosecutor? The documentary included his thoughts. The media was a professed interest of the directors of this documentary. Why question their coverage of the media in the documentary?

Of course the Kerchers were presented as betrayed by the finished process. They were led to believe Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito raped and killed Meredith Kercher. The case they believed in was biased, misleading, and error-filled.

Friday, September 9, 2016

Legends of Ms. Chimera: Introduction

My purpose in these posts concerning Ms. Chimera's articles entitled Revenge Of The Knox, The Smear-All Book is to contrast Ms. Chimera's gossip with what Ms. Knox really intended for her book to do: present the experiences she had to endure with the Italian Judiciary and in the Italian prison.

I could have called my posts, the Ms. Chimera's Inquisition of Amanda Knox since that is what it is. She poses more questions than statements, but her questions have the same spiteful poison as her statements. Gossip of course is a blood sport, and Ms. Chimera plays it very well.

The social contract is the unspoken organization by which people socialize with each other. It encompasses socially acceptable behavior and expectations of how law should work. It is expected that suspicion of crime should be handled by the authorities, and that if there is probable cause to indict a suspect, that suspect should get a fair trial for facing his or her accusers.

Part of that fair trial is the opportunity to defend oneself and to have judgement from peers instead of having it handed down from a government hierarchy. Personally, I do not like the Italian Judiciary making the regular judges appointed however the Italian Constitution provides to be part of the so-called jury of lay judges however they are appointed.

There is no independent jury in Italy such as the institution of the jury is in the U.S. The defense is not allowed to investigate on its own as in the U.S., and in fact, the main judge controls what is investigated and what is not. The reason for this is that the Italian Judiciary is an Inquisitorial legal system.

Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito were indeed tried by an Inquisition.

Legends of Ms. Chimera: part 01

Legends of Ms. Chimera: part 02

Legends of Ms. Chimera: part 03

Legends of Ms. Chimer: part 04

Legends of Ms. Chimer: part 05

Legends of Ms. Chimera: part 06

Legends of Ms. Chimera: part 07

Legends of Ms. Chimera: part 08

Legends of Ms. Chimera: part 09

Legends of Ms. Chimera: part 10

Legends of Ms. Chimera: part 11

Legends of Ms. Chimera: part 12

Legends of Ms. Chimera: Finale

Legends of Ms. Chimera: part 01

http://truejustice.org/ee/index.php?/tjmk/comments/revenge_of_the_knox_the_smear-all_book_1/

My opinion is that Ms. Chimera wants to counter the influence that Amanda Knox's book has been able to have on public opinion at least in the United States. Ms. Knox didn't write her to please guilters who have already made up their mind about her. She wrote it to express the experiences she endured.

Ms. Chimera set up a false dichotomy between the young woman that Ms. Knox was before going to Italy, and the young woman she was when she got there. My generation came up with the term "free sex," and while I didn't think it was advisable for a woman to subscribe to it then, there is even more of that environment today. Ms. Knox was a young woman unsure of her own self and place in society before she went to Italy, and she behaved as she thought a mature woman would behave before and after she got there. If Ms. Chimera wants to call Ms. Knox a "skank" for Ms. Knox's lifestyle, she would probably have to include many of normal American women that age under that label.

The proper context of Ms. Knox's book is that it is her experiences with the Italian Judiciary and in an Italian prison. It is only about Meredith's death in the ways that Ms. Knox was blamed for Guede's crimes against Meredith, but it is still about how the wrongful accusations, trials, convictions, and incarceration made a victim of Ms. Knox.

Why does the story about Ms. Knox have to clear up anthing about Guede's crimes against Meredith? Does Ms. Chimera declare that anything that exonerates Ms. Knox has to be a lie? If Ms. Knox wrote accusations against certain persons, why is she at fault for telling what happened to her?

Ms. Chimera can point out these so-called "mega-lies" she attributed to Ms. Knox, but they are lies in her mind only. In particular, Ms. Knox's First Memorandum demonstrates that something really horrible happened to Ms. Knox during that last questioning that Ms. Chimera won't agree was an interrogation. The confused state of mind demonstrated in that document shows that Ms. Knox could not have understood the statements she was forced to sign. Ms. Knox wrote this First Memorandum immediately after being forced to sign the second statement typed by the police in Italian which the interpreter testified Ms. Knox could not understand.

In that First Memorandum Ms. Knox explained that she had two different memories for the time of the murder. She described the memory of being at the murder with Patrick Lumumba in stark details insisting that it was unreal and unreliable. She describe the memory of being with Ms. Sollecito in details that were vivid and real.

I take everything that Ms. Chimera wrote with caution. She has already exaggerated the booze, boys, and drugs. Ms. Chimera will often disparage Ms. Knox for only taking one course at the University for Foreigners, but in her book Ms. Knox said she was taking three classes.

So why does it matter how much research Ms. Kmox did before deciding on the University for Foreigners? Ms. Chimera was just being catty that Ms. Knox didn't know about the University of Perugia. The same goes for Ms. Chimera's confusing
Ms. Knox's conversation with her dad with the testimony Ms. Knox gave in June 2009.

The cattiness continued with Ms. Chimera's reference to the 1950's sitcom dad, another smear about booze and drugs, and a question of where Ms. Knox's money went her first month in Perugia. Did it ever occur to Ms. Chimera that there are lots of up front costs in going to school?

Ms. Chimera contradicted her thesis that Ms. Knox didn't "morph" into being immature until she got to Italy. And why wouldn't Ms. Knox do more research into studies abroad while in college when her first research into the possibility was during high school? This is probably an example of the absurd things guilters consider lies.

Another ridiculous contradiction of Ms. Chimera is Ms. Knox's honest assessment of herself as a loner who pretended to be part of the mainstream society of her high school. Why wouldn't Ms. Knox feel shame and insecurity in leaving her "outsider" friends to associate with these mainstreamers she didn't have the courage to act as herself around? Is Ms. Chimera using Ms. Knox's honest assessment of herself to set up a supposed pattern of lies? Ms. Chimera ignored Ms. Knox's obvious meaning in regretting the hurt she caused her former friends. Why is it not clear to Ms. Chimera?

Why would Ms. Chimera think Ms. Knox only knew one chord on the guitar? What difference does it make to Ms. Chimera that Ms. Knox had grown up a tom-boy? Again, Ms. Chimera contradicted her thesis that Ms. Knox's immaturity didn't begin until she got to Italy. Ms. Knox really wanted her experiences abroad to be meaningful, but Ms. Chimera just thought Ms. Knox had multiple motivations whatever that means.

The comment of Ms. Knox's friend, Brett, is an example of the free sex environment that is hard to understand. Among young people, sex is a mature behavior. So it doesn't occur to them that it takes a great deal of thought to make it work. They want to use it without being controlled by it. It doesn't have anything to do with their other asperations any more than eating does. I don't see why Ms. Knox should be singled out for this shortsightedness.

Ms. Chimera could have just as well asked why Deanna left her sister, Amanda, alone with this guy she had just met on the train. Is this what Ms. Chimera meant by asking how Deanna would feel knowing that Ms. Knox had published this event? Amanda Knox was only telling an honest story about her naivite and excessive trust that would get her into trouble. There is no question that it was ill advised of Ms. Knox to do this.

Is it so strange for Ms. Knox to have mixed feeling about the man who gave her and Deanna a ride? Of course Ms. Knox felt more concern for her younger sister than for herself, but it is exaggerating the situation to say Deanna was not safe in her own hotel room.

Why the hypocrisy? The one lie that Ms. Knox told the police was that Filomena did not smoke marijuana, but Ms. Chimera complained about Ms. Knox mentioning it in her book. That secret had long since been disclosed. Ms. Knox of course is criticized for lying abut that use of marijuana.

Ms. Knox was never arrested for throwing rocks in Seattle. She was given a noise citation for a party she had attended. It may not have been her party even. There never was a Seattle riot. She never said that she "screwed" a stranger. Ms. Chimera made this assumption. Dolly is Ms. Knox's aunt--not her grandmother. Certainly, her grandmother would have concern for her having herpes, but she would have more concern about people thinking Ms. Knox murdered Meredith. Ms. Knox is being quite honest about the events that led up to her being falsely accused of murder.

Ms. Chimera forgot that Ms. Knox's sex life had already been published from police leaks from her confiscated diary. Weren't boys Filomena, Laura, and Meredith brought home with them strange to Ms. Knox? And Ms. Knox didn't bring that many men into the apartment anyhow. She certainly didn't bring Guede into the apartment.

Why did Ms. Chimera call the list the police asked of Ms. Knox a "list of suspects?" Ficarra only asked her to list men who knew Meredith. Ficarra didn't ask if Ms. Knox suspected them.

What is the point of Ms. Chimera questioning why Ms. Knox talked about her sex-life? it was the police who made it available for all the guilters to gossip about. Ms. Knox had to address this issue or be accused of hiding it.

Whatever is Ms. Chimera referring to with saying Laura and Filomena called Ms. Knox an attention seeking exhibitionist? Ms. Knox was probably over compensating for her insecurities which she wrote about. That would be what Laura and Meredith would have been concerned about with what Ms. Knox said about Mirko. I hardly think that her two friends would have ignored Ms. Knox's need for someone to talk to.

Why does Ms. Chimera question Ms. Knox writing about the dirty toilet when that was given as a reason for the conflict between Ms. Knox and Ms. Kercher? Of course this dirty toilet conflict is pointless and irrelevant as is the controversy it spawned over the jealousy Ms. Knox supposedly had for Meredith's achievements. Did not Ms. Knox have her own achievements? Why would she be jealous of Meredith's achievements?


Again, what difference does it make that Ms. Knox wrote about Laura and Filomena smoking marijuana? That information was broadcast a long time before Ms. Knox's book was first published.

Why would Ms. Knox make up this picture? It is unclear if she meant this picture was used as a caricature of her as a sexpot, or if it was just a media perception of her that did that. What Ms. Chimera probably wants to do is use the picture to ridicule Ms. Knox.

Again, Ms. Chimera is obsessed with how many classes Ms. Knox was taking. Where did Ms. Chimera get the idea that Ms. Knox only took one class, anyhow? The courses she took could have been on a lower level because she needed more practice in Italian. Also, courses she wanted may not have been available that first semester.

Ms. Chimera is being catty again. It is quite likely that Patrick Lumumba did consider how likely Ms. Knox was to draw customers to his bar when he interviewed her. Ms. Knox didn't write about her sex life except in her diary when the prison official had lied to her that she was HIV positive. It was the prison officials who confiscated her diary and leaked her sex life to be published. Ms. Knox already wrote about not knowing she was attractive growing up. So she would not have understood that her looks were marketable until looking back on her boss's behavior.

Ms. Knox does better at creative writing than Ms. Chimera does.

Why shouldn't Ms. Knox be choosy in whom she has "casual sex" with? Even if she has multiple partners, is that an excuse for some dude to force himself on her? She wrote what she realized about her job: She was a reason men went to that bar. Of course she would fear that some jerk would get the wrong idea about what he thought she was offering him. That's probably what happened with Guede when he raped and murdered Meredith. So Ms. Knox's concerns were valid.

Why wouldn't Patrick Lumumba think hiring an attractive young American woman would help his business? Ms. Chimera didn't mention that Patrick Lumumba never said he wanted to fire Ms. Knox for laziness until he decided to charge her with calumnia. There was no way that Ms. Knox would have accused Patrick Lumumba of leaving his bar during business hours to go rape and kill Meredith. She had to be coerced into accusing him.

Ms. Chimera made the same insinuation that many guilters have made about Ms. Knox's supposed heroin use. They have never proved this canard. There is no reason to expect Ms. Knox to have known about all the heroin use in Perugia before going there. The chamber of commerce was not likely to post a picture of Antonio Curatolo with a caption of his addiction.

If Perugia had not had a murder in 20 years, why did the prosecution call the villa a death trap? How does what the defense lawyer said change that? Actually, this murder was not the only time the villa has been broken into. That's why the bars on the windows now.

Did Ms. Chimera expect Ms. Knox to know retroactively that she should be afraid of the Perugia she loved? It was not until she was in prison that she found out about all the heroin addicts in Perugia, but because she wrote that in her book, Ms. Chimera thought it was a contradiction with Ms. Knox saying there was a time she loved Perugia.

Ms. Chimera made an strange smear accusing Ms. Knox of already wanting to leave Perugia because she had friends there. Ms. Knox of course was only going to be there for a year, but was Ms. Chimera thinking ahead to a different phone conversation when Ms. Knox's mother was asking her to come home after the murder? Ms. Knox insisted that she needed to remain to help the police find the killer even though her roommates were leaving.

Again, Ms. Chimera asserted that the list of men's names the police asked for were for suspects. Ficarra only asked for names of men who knew Meredith. Juve and "Shaky" knew Meredith.

Ms. Chimera misstated that Ms Knox said she had never met Rudy Guede in her email to Judge Nencini. What Ms. Knox really wrote was that she had no contact with Rudy Guede, but she indeed wrote in the email to Judge Nencini that she had met him while at the guys' downstairs apartment.

Since Ms. Chimera's reference to "crossed paths" shows she read this email to Nencini, she had to have known that Ms. Knox in the next sentence, Ms. Knox said she was introduced to Rudy Guede. So I take Ms. Chimera's statement that Ms. Knox had claimed in that email that she had never met Rudy to be a lie.

I don't think it was any secret that Meredith had used some of the marijuana that the guys downstairs had. After all, she watered their marijuana plants while they were away. But more to the point, maybe the Kerchers don't want to here how Meredith smoked pot also, but why is it only wrong for Ms. Knox to have done it? Guilters like Ms. Chimera love to talk about how Ms. Knox did drugs, but all she did was the same marijuana that Meredith smoked.

Again, Ficarro only asked Ms. Knox to list men who knew Meredith and not suspects. Since Ms. Knox only knew Guede from Ivory Coast as the South African, she definitely didn't know him.

I have to agree that since we are talking about Ms. Knox being charged with murder, I have to wonder why the guilters have so much interest in her sex life. Is it because since she was assumed not to be innocent of sex, they assumed her to be guilty of murder? In her twelfth installment of this series, Ms. Chimera will claim that a sex game gone wrong was never asserted in the case against Ms. Knox, but that certainly is what the media claimed. Guilters still accuse Ms. Knox of this. So whether Ms. Chimera understands it or not, the reason Ms. Knox brought up her sex life was to show that it was nothing like Mignini wanted to portray it as being.

Well, it certainly wasn't just Ms. Knox who was bringing "strange" men into the villa. It is so catty of Ms. Chimera to criticize publishing information that had already come out.

Why did Ms. Chimera need to demand what Ms. Knox definitely didn't know? All she knows is that Meredith didn't stay, and she met Mr. Sollecito. I do wonder at Ms. Chimera's nasty mind asking what about Mr. Sollecito was a "tether." Can't she just take Ms. Knox's meaning as a tie-down or an anchor? And why did Ms. Chimera assume that Ms. Knox had to continue forever with casual sex?

Ms. Knox was being honest when she decided that if she hadn't met Raffaele Sollecito, the next four years would have been different for him. What was it about this meeting that gave Ms. Chimera that Ms. Knox was looking for a goon to help her murder Meredith?

Seriously, Ms. Knox cannot be discriminate in her casual sex? Given that she had had only seven sexual partners by the time she was in prison, she had to have refused a lot of men who were interested.

Lots of men carry knives. I do. My father had dozens of pocket knives. That didn't make either of us murderers. Thank you, Ms. Chimera for confirming your obsession with knives.

If Ms. Chimera was not interested in Ms. Knox's sex life, why did she keep reading it? Why should Ms. Chimera worry about whether this relationship with Mr. Sollecito was for real or not? It's not her story. There is no reason to believe Ms. Chimera would have any interest in Raffaele Sollecito anyhow. Why should it matter to her that he liked smoking marijuana, carried a knife, and read Harry Potter?

Again, this is Ms. Knox's story and not Ms. Chimera's story. I don't understand this casual sex thing, but it was hers and not Mr. Sollecito's. Ms. Chimera was just being a gossip in making these false dichotomies. Of course Ms. Knox had ambitions for her year abroad, but it was only going to be a year. She was definitely going back to Seattle regardless of her plans for the year she was in Italy. So what's wrong with Ms. Knox having come to the conclusion that Mr. Sollecito had provided her ties she didn't know she needed? But she was being realistic that she might need to be alone to achieve the goals she set for herself in going to Italy. Ms. Chimera's comments on Ms. Knox's dilemma are particularly insensitive.

Again, Ms. Chimera insinuated that Christiano as Ms. Knox called him was a drug dealer for Ms. Knox. I hardly believe that Ms. Knox didn't care that Christiano might give her herpes. She like the guilters didn't seem to know she could get it from kissing.

I'm not sure what Ms. Knox meant by self-discovery, but I also question what Ms. Chimera thought it meant. Everyone goes through a period of self-doubt where they have to search for what is meaningful in their lives. We cannot depend on our parents to provide the meaning of life forever. Ridiculing Ms. Knox's choices really isn't helpful, but gossips aren't interested in being helpful.

Again, Ficarra didn't ask Ms. Knox to list suspects. She asked Ms. Knox to list men who knew Meredith, and Spyros knew Meredith.


Why did Ms. Chimera expect every night in Perugia to be socially fulfilling to Ms. Knox when Ms. Chimera didn't expect Ms. Knox would have enjoyed every night in Seattle? Why hound her for the "real" reason she didn't enjoy herself? Didn't Ms. Knox explain that she was homesick?

Did Chimera never study a foreign language? Lots of studying one involves using a dictionary to translate stuff. It doesn't mean anyone is fluent without the dictionary.

So what if Ms. Chimera wants to know which Beatle's songs were played. Why wouldn't it be Ms. Knox's guitar Ms. Knox used to play on? What difference would the service record of the plumber having come before make? Is Ms. Chimera suggesting another so-called lie without even having a contradiction to allude to? Why does it matter why Mr. Sollecito didn't have a mop? He didn't have one. And Ms. Knox only wrote about water under the sink. Why couldn't Ms. Chimera read that for herself?

Ms. Knox explained that she turned her phone off because she didn't want Patrick Lumumba to call back changing his mind after he had given her the night off. Why would Ms. Knox know why Mr. Sollecito turned his phone off unless it was because he didn't want to be interrupted when they made love which they did.

The police demanded all sorts of irrelevant details about that night. Why wouldn't Ms. Knox remember that Jovanna came by twice. It was in the testimony as well.

Why did Ms. Chimera expect Ms. Knox to realize that "See you later" in Italian doesn't have the same meaning as "See you later" in English? I think they do have the same meaning. What I don't understand is how the police thought it meant that Ms. Knox expected to see Patrick Lumumba that very night. Adding "Have a good evening," doesn't say that. It just adds to the meaning of "Goodbye."

Why does it matter to Ms. Chimera how long Ms. Knox and Mr. Sollecito were intending to stay in Gubbio? They didn't get there. She does mention the hickey since the police tried to say Meredith had scratched her.

It's strange that Ms. Chimera knew that Ms. Knox was uncertain about whether she and Mr. Sollecito made love on the night of Nov. 1st, or that she had read her emails that night, but Ms. Chimera doesn't notice this uncertainty as evidence of the abusive treatment Ms. Knox had endured the night before she wrote that uncertainty in her First Memorandum. Ms. Knox didn't tell the police many different stories during that abusive interrogation. They were only able to brainwash her into believing one story different from what she had lived.

Ms. Chimera demanded of Ms. Knox whether she received Patrick's text message, replied, and turned off her phone before or after supper. It is strange that Ms. Knox wrote one way in writing about the incident, but included her Second Memorandum an account that was opposite. The answer is that the phone incident was first. In the only copy of her Second Memorandum, she numbers the incidents she wrote about in that section, and though the incident about the phone comes after the event of supper, the phone incident is number three, and the supper event is number four. These numbers were not likely added later since they are in the same pen type and ink as the other cross-outs Ms. Knox did while writing the Second Memorandum. She intended the phone incident come before the supper event.

Why would Ms. Knox deny wearing what she was wearing? What was there so incriminating about wearing a white skirt and a blue sweater? Even if Ms. Knox didn't remember what she was wearing that day, she could have gone to that photo to find out.

Why did Ms. Chimera ask why Ms. Knox didn't see the broken window in Filomena's room? Ms. Knox had said the bedroom doors were closed.

Why did Ms. Chimera ask why Ms. Knox didn't clean up the spots of blood? Ms. Knox wrote that she tried to pick at it but it was dried. Ms. Knox had to get ready for the trip.

Ms. Knox didn't say the blood on the bath mat was a lump. She only said it was the size of an orange. Again, Ms. Knox has a trip to get ready for.

"Poop" in water probably would not give any odor to the air. Since Ms. Knox is the one they had to tell to clean up after she used the toilet, why does it seem strange to Ms. Chimera that Ms. Knox didn't think to flush the toilet?

Since the front door is likely to open by itself, all Ms. Knox knew for sure was that someone didn't lock it. She wouldn't necessarily think of a murderer being in the house. And besides, didn't Ms. Chimera make a big deal about how there had been no murder in Perugia for 20 years.

Why would panic over the poop in the toilet make Ms. Knox forget her coat, purse, and the mop? She would have had those things ready for departing anyhow. She probably didn't have to think about grabbing them. She just did it.

Why would Ms. Knox go back after leaving the house just to fulsh the toilet and clean up the specks of blood? Ms. Chimera's sarcasm about Ms. Knox's toilet training doesn't prove anything. What is so strange about this account in comparison with what Edda testified? There is not that much difference. Ms. Knox had told her mother what her concerns were. Edda may have told her to call the police, and Ms. Knox wrote that in one of the phone calls her mother told hehr that. It makes sense that Ms. Knox would have thought she was supposed to check with her roommates first. Edda would have wanted Ms. Knox to go on to Mr. Sollecito's apartment rather than going back to the villa..

If Ms. Knox had attempted to call Meredith first, she must have had second thoughts about making Filomena the second person she called. If it were as brief as Ms. Chimera said it was, maybe Ms. Knox dialed it by mistake and hung up realizing she wasn't calling Filomena.

I doubt seriously that Filomena's first thought would be to tell Ms. Knox to flush the toilet.

I'm sure that Ms. Knox and Mr. Sollecito had forgotten their trip when they realized the house had been broken into. It was likely the police would want to talk to them.

And why would Mr. Sollecito think to flush a toilet in what had become a crime scene?

Since the stone was thrown into the Filomena's room, why would there be glass outside? The glass would follow the stone in.

Ms. Knox did not tell the postal police that Meredith's door being locked was no big deal. They asked if Meredith was in the habit of locking her door. Ms. Knox was probably trying to say that sometimes Meredith did, but Filomena took control and said to knock the door in.

How did Ms. Chimera expect Ms. Knox to know the phone numbers of Giaccomo or Meredith's British friends?

Since Ms. Knox was unable to look in through the terrace, what was there for her to tell the postal police? Why did Ms. Chimera ask such a useless question?

Mr. Sollecito was not sure he should knock the door in. What if Meredith was not there needing help? It was only when Filomena arrived that there was any authority to knock it in. Filomena said so.

Legends of Ms. Chimera: part 02

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My opinion is that Ms. Chimera wants to counter the influence that Amanda Knox's book has been able to have on public opinion at least in the United States. Ms. Knox didn't write her to please guilters who have already made up their mind about her. She wrote it to express the experiences she endured.

The clock of the security video showing the postal police arriving was fast compared to the clock used to record Mr. Sollecito's call to the carabiniere. So Sollecito called the police before the postal police arrived.

Is Ms. Chimera the editor for Ms. Knox? 88 seconds is plenty of time for Ms. Knox and Edda Mellas to have said many things, but that doesn't mean that Ms. Knox had to put all of them in her book. Why does Ms. Chimera need to know this trivia when she complained about other details she didn't need for Ms. Knox to express?

Anxiety can exhaust a person, fear can make a person smell repulsive. The repulsive smell is a natural defense against predators. If Ms. Chimera really has any interest in the clothes Ms. Knox changed out of before taking the shower, there are always the investigation photos for her to search. Why bother Ms. Knox about this?

The reason Filomena never saw the sweatshirt again that Ms. Knox wore the night before is because it was still in the villa after it was sealed for the investigation. It was in the investigation photos.

Turning off the phones didn't prove Ms. Knox or Mr. Sollecito left his apartment. What is turning them back on supposed to prove?

Ms. Knox's phone didn't record but 4 seconds of the attempt to call Meredith because the call wasn't completed. Her phone company didn't charge for incomplete calls.

Why would Ms. Knox know the phone numbers of Meredith's English friends? She did call Filomena who told her to call Meredith. but not Laura. Since Laura was out of town, why would she know anything about Meredith?

The postal police kept everyone from entering Meredith's room although one of the postal police did enter far enough to lift the duvet from over Meredith's body. It was a small hall. There was no way that six people could fit in it without crowding.

The postal police could not understand English. So they only testified to what they thought Ms. Knox had said. Mr. Sollecito tried to translate it, but Filomena blurted out that Meredith didn't lock her door.

Why did Ms. Chimera expect Ms. Knox to report to the postal police her trying to look through the window into Meredith's room? She didn't succeed in seeing anything. Did Ms. Chimera expect the postal police to try also?

How did Ms. Chimera decide what Ms. Knox really said about Meredith's locking her door? Ms. Chimera wasn't there, and nobody then knew for sure what Ms. Knox tried to say.

Did Ms. Chimera expect Ms. Knox to have stop watched the events as they occurred? The time seal of the security camera at the parking deck shows when the postal police arrived, and we know it was fast compared to the clock at the Carabiniere dispatch office. The postal police testified to finding Ms. Knox and Mr. Sollecito waiting outside. The other four people testified to what they found when they arrived. What exactly did Ms. Chimera need help in?

Why did Ms. Chimera expect Ms. Knox to know why an killer unknown to her at the time would dump the two phones?

The outer shutters of Filomena's window were only partially opened when Ms. Knox arrived at the villa. That kept the glass window out of view when she went to the front door.

The police photos of the outside of the villa do show a scuff on the corner of the downstairs window frame where Guede would have put his foot in climbing to Filomena's window. Why would loose dirt cling to the wall anyhow? If the dirt did work loose from the grooves of Guede's shoes, it would just have fallen to the ground.

Mr. Sollecito called 112 which is Italy's version of 911. Why did Ms. Chimera ask why he called the Carabinieri when that's who you get if you dial Italy's 911? The only thing that Mr. Sollecito's sister, Vanessa had to do with Mr. Sollecito calling the police was to tell him to do so.

Did Ms. Chimera think that Ms. Knox was buying lingerie while sitting in shock on the front steps of the villa just after Meredith's body was found?  It wasn't until later that Ms. Knox realized she could not get back into the villa to get her things that she needed to buy more clothes including underwear. The allegations of joking about "hot sex" while shopping were false.

What foreknowledge of what happened to Meredith could Ms. Knox have had from the meager clues that were left behind in the villa? Ms. Knox worried about Meredith because an intruder had been in the villa, and she didn't know where Meredith was.

The graphic details about how Meredith died were used against Ms. Knox at trial as though those details proved her guilt. How was Ms. Knox supposed to express the enormity of the wrongful accusations against her if she didn't express them?

Ms. Knox didn't know the exact details of Meredith's death when she talked to Meredith's English friends while waiting in the Questura the day Meredith's body was found. Did Ms. Chimera expect Ms. Knox to remain ignorant of those details years later when Ms. Knox wrote her book? Details from the police reports are not the same as foggy and contradictory personal recollections. Ms. Chimera ignored that she quoted Ms. Knox referring to this official information from the police and the trial.

Can not Ms. Chimera read what Ms. Knox wrote leading up the the phrase "Nothing you could say about what her body was like in it’s devastation" that Ms. Chimera quoted? Ms. Knox was talking about hearing Filomena moaning from the horrible sight of Meredith's body, but Ms. Knox had not seen into Meredith's room. As Ms. Knox wrote: "All I got was confusion and words and, later, question after question about Meredith and her life in Perugia. There was nothing I could say about what her body was like in its devastation."

Meredith's sex life came out when Guede claimed sex with her was consensual even though she was in an intimate relationship with Giacomo. Why is Meredith's sex life irrelevant, when it is part of the lie that Guede tells in attacking Ms. Knox? Meredith did not invite Guede into the villa for sex, and Guede did not see Ms. Knox and Mr. Sollecito in the villa while Guede raped and murdered Meredith.

Did Ms. Chimera really ask if Ms. Knox was annoyed by Filomena's grief? Ms. Knox was upset by Meredith's death, but Ms. Knox had not seen the horrible condition of Meredith's body as Filomena had. Why would Ms. Knox begrudge Filomena the grief over the awful sight Ms. Knox had been spared?

What difference does it make that at trial Ms. Knox didn't know who she heard say that Meredith's throat had been cut? What's important is that she did hear Luca telling Sollecito that Meredith's throat had been cut. Ms. Knox had not lied about hearing someone say it. It was Luca who said it.

Ms. Knox was upset when she responded to Meredith's friends' talking about how Meredith didn't suffer when she died. Ms. Knox was only telling them that what was done to Meredith was horrible.

Ms. Knox explained why it was important for her to talk about Mr. Sollecito holding and kissing her while the waited outside the villa. If Ms. Chimera agreed it was plausible that he was comforting her, why did she question Ms. Knox's talking about it when people misconstrued it later as evidence of guilt?

What did Ms. Chimera have against Ms. Knox being relaxed in the questura? Did Ms. Chimera expect Ms. Knox to be continually debilitated by grief? Meredith was a friend, but she was not a family member. Ms. Knox was terribly upset when Meredith's body was first discovered, and she probably had grief other times also, but most people have breaks in their feelings. Besides, their face-making game would have relaxed Ms. Knox anyhow.

There never was any proof that Ms. Knox was using drugs from Cristiano or Federico or anyone else for that matter, much less that she was trading sex for the nonexistent drugs.

Ms. Knox did not express "she had her fucking throat cut" in cold blood. She was upset by Meredith's friends trying to minimize the enormity of what happened to Meredith. She wanted the subdued English girls to realize it was a horrible thing that happened to Meredith. Ms. Knox definitely uttered that exclamation in hot blood.

Again, how did Ms. Knox know the phone numbers for Meredith's English friends? As withdrawn as they were from Ms. Knox, was it likely that any of them would have given Ms. Knox a phone number?

Why did Ms. Chimera ask why Ms. Knox was "surprised that the police would spend a significant amount of time questioning the occupants of the home?" What surprise Ms. Knox was the hostility with which Officer Monica Napoleoni responded to her. Ms. Napoleoni's behavior shows that the police already considered Ms. Knox a suspect.

As an occupant of the villa Ms. Knox knew that only an outsider would forget to flush the toilet. Given that someone had broken through Filomena's window and killed Meredith, it was reasonable for Ms. Knox to believe the poop belonged to the killer.

How could the police know to ask Ms. Knox if she had removed the mop and brought it back unless she told them? The police really did check the mop for blood. So why does Ms. Chimera question that Officer Napoleoni would say they would check it? The mop didn't prove to have blood on it. What did Ms. Chimera think Ms. Knox was covering for?

Why would Officer ask why Ms. Knox didn't flush the toilet? It was evidence.

Why would it come up in court that Filomena sneaked back into the villa and removed her laptop? Why did it matter to Ms. Chimera if Ms. Knox didn't tell anyone about it until she wrote her book? Was Ms. Chimera accusing Ms. Chimera of lying about Filomena? Why would Ms. Knox lie about such a thing?

What's really telling is that the police did videotape the questioning of Ms. Knox before the night of Nov. 5-6. That's why it's possible that the police are lying about there being no recording for that last night. Of course, guilters like Ms. Chimera won't admit how much Ms. Knox was questioned before that last night. They also don't admit how long she was interrogated that last night either.

Rita Ficarra testifying at trial that Amanda Knox spoke Italian quite well is proof that Rita Ficarra must have lied about a lot of things. Why did the police need interpreters if Ms. Knox could speak and understand Italian?

Ms. Knox didn't write that background questions about Meredith were not normal. She only commented on how some questions the police asked her were irrelevant. Ms. Knox didn't say the questioning about Meredith was excessive. If Ms. Chimera wanted to know what questions were irrelevant, she could have read in Ms. Knox's book about the police asking her about the relationship between Giacomo and Meredith, about whether she liked anal sex, and about whether she used Vaseline. They asked Sollecito similar questions, and in his book he linked it to Mignini's obsession for devil worship and Masonic sects.

No, Ms. Chimera. Ms.Knox did not say in her email to Judge Nencini that on Nov. 2nd the police asked all sorts of personal question like whether Meredith liked anal sex. Ms. Knox only wrote about the illegal interrogation of Nov. 5-6 in the email to Judge Nencini. It was the questioning of Nov. 3rd in the downstairs apartment of the four guys that the police asked Ms. Knox whether Meredith liked anal sex. It was in Ms. Knox's email to her family and friends that she talked about these strange questions concerning Meredith. That email to her family could have been sent on Nov. 4th.

How did nothing seeming to have been taken indicate that the burglary was an inside job? How were two cell phones being taken indicate that the burglary was an inside job? Why would there be any glass outside Filomena's window since the stone was thrown in and not out? How would Ms. Knox notice anything about the broken window with the outside shutters partially open? How was she supposed to have noticed from the inside of the villa that Filomena's window was broken when Filomena's door was closed? Ms. Knox did notice the few specks of blood in the sink and on the spigot and the spot of blood on the bath mat, but how does this prove the burglary was an inside job? Since Guede had a history of arrests for breaking into second floor windows and threatening homeowners with a knife, the simplest explanation is that Guede broke in, was using the front bathroom toilet when Meredith came in, and caught her by surprise. Filomena's window is on the side of the villa. It's not a front window.

Why is it important that other people's phones were bugged? Ms. Knox is not writing about their stories. She is writing about her experiences with the police, the judiciary, and the prison system. What does bugging Ms. Knox's phone and Mr. Sollecito's phone have to do with getting background information about Meredith? The police were not interested in the truth about Meredith's killer. They were only interested in tying Ms. Knox and Mr. Sollecito to crime they didn't do.

Napoleano, Ficarra, and Giobbi were certainly callous toward Ms. Knox since they had already decided Ms. Knox was the killer. Why wouldn't this police officer behave in similar manner in confirming what he assumed she already knew?

Since the finger across the neck can be interpreted as death--in any form, what was it about using that symbol that gave Ms. Chimera the notion Ms. Knox meant a literal throat cutting?

It wasn't the police Ms. Knox told that Meredith was in the armoire. It was the British girls Ms. Knox said this to. They testified that she said this, and it was used as proof that Ms. Knox had information about the murder that nobody had told her. The reason nobody had told her this fact is because it isn't correct. Meredith's body was not found in the armoire. So it wasn't prior knowledge of anything.

Why is it odd that Laura would say Meredith was Ms. Knox's friend when the British girls did not? Laura had more opportunity to see Meredith with Ms. Knox. After the attempt to introduce Ms. Knox to her friends, Meredith didn't try anymore. Ms. Knox was just too different from Meredith's British friends.

Promising Laura and Filomena not to disclose their use of marijuana in the villa got Ms. Knox into trouble for lying to the police. Filomena even testified against her that they smoked marijuana. So what reason was there for not putting this in her book?

What did Ms. Knox write about this event that Ms. Chimera interpreted as Ms. Knox's opinion that getting lawyers was a cold thing to do?

Did Ms. Chimera not read where Ms. Knox previously wrote: "Sometime around 3 P.M. the police gathered us all in the driveway and told us to meet them at the station— the questura— a tall, generic, off-white modern building about ten minutes away, on the edge of town." What's unclear about this to Ms. Chimera?

Did Ms. Chimera not read where Ms. Knox wrote: "Around 3 AM a police officer led the British girls and me downstairs to get fingerprinted." Ms. Knox then goes on to say: "One by one they took us into a room and painted our fingertips with a black, tarlike syrup."  Doesn't this tell Ms. Chimera that Ms. Knox was fingerprinted also?

Actually, Ms. Knox only said "around 3 AM." But as vague as Ms. Chimera is, Ms. Chimera made it seem that Ms. Knox made it a precise time. Did Ms. Chimera find that the other people along with Ms. Knox contradicts this part of the story? Did Ms. Chimera find any police records that contradicts Ms. Knox? So why did Ms. Chimera imply that Ms. Knox made it up for sympathy?

Where did Ms. Knox write that she didn't believe the police wanted their fingerprints for elimination in the investigation? Did Ms. Chimera think that Ms. Knox's interest in CSI was a reason to disbelieve the reason given for getting the fingerprints? That makes no sense.

Ms. Knox had been upset by the horrible way Meredith died. But that's not the type of fury Ms. Knox was describing when she started saying "No" over and over again.

Why, Ms. Chimera, do you keep advocating the flushing of evidence? Ms. Knox was upset by that poop precisely because only the intruder would have left it unflushed. Why would the killer have the audacity to use the toilet while he was at the murder scene of his crime? Why did he break in but not steal anything worth much?

Ms. Knox never said she noticed her lamp had been missing from her room. It probably didn't merit much attention while Meredith was missing and then turned up murdered. I have never understood why it means anything that Ms. Knox's lamp was in Meredith's room.

I also don't see the connection between Guede's not taking Filomena's laptop and the suspicions that the murder was an inside job. Guede did take the two phones but ditched them when he realized they could connect him to the murder. So would the laptop. He did take the rent money and two credit cards and tried to get money out of Meredith's bank account. So it was not entirely a non-robbery crime.

The police had already arrested Guede for breaking and entering with intent to rob and threatening a homeowner with a knife. Why didn't they suspect him of doing the same in the villa but this time actually killing someone? Guede did throw away his shoes and try to escape to Germany Ms. Knox and Mr. Sollecito remained in Perugia submitting themselves to interrogation by the police without a lawyer present. If they were involved in an inside job, why would they do that?

So Ms. Chimera admitted that it was when Ms. Knox wrote about being angry that she told the British girls that Meredith got her throat cut. Just how could Giacomo believe that Ms. Knox was unemotional about saying that?

Ms. Knox may not known who she heard say that Meredith's throat was slashed, but Luca did tell Mr. Sollecito that while they were waiting outside the villa.

The police may not have known for sure what the cause of death was, but they sure could have seen that her throat was slashed. That was all that Luca told Mr. Sollecito.

Why wouldn't Ms. Knox have sounded angry when saying Meredith's throat was cut? If Ms. Chimera's friend's throat had been cut, wouldn't she be angry as well as grieved? Why did Ms. Chimera think that Ms. Knox was capable of only grief while she was muttering and swearing with frustration that her friend was murdered and with impatience for the killer to be apprehended? Ms. Chimera certainly has a narrow understanding of human nature.

What Ms. Knox was confirming was that Mr. Sollecito had a reason to try to calm Ms. Knox with affection and silly faces. She was angry and agitated because her friend was murdered. So what if the British girls with their stiff upper lips thought it was odd behavior? They never made an effort to understand Ms. Knox anyhow.

Again, why couldn't the police see with their own eyes that Meredith's throat was cut? They don't need a medical examiner to tell them that. Ms. Knox didn't say that Meredith suffocated on her own blood which was the cause of death. She didn't know that, but she certainly heard what Luca said to Sollecito about the slashed throat even if she didn't know who was speaking.

Ms. Knox wrote about being impatient to for the police to find Meredith's killer. She could have been just as impatient as everyone else for waiting in the police station. Why does it matter that she ended up kissing, joking, and making faces with Mr. Sollecito? It had been a horribly long day, and she must have wanted some relief from it all.

Actually, humor is the best medicine for a lot of things. I've found that laughing at death is the only way to get out of the depression death of a someone close can cause. The deceased would not want that much grief over their demise. They would expect the living to go on living.

Why did Ms. Chimera claim Ms. Knox wrote that she was singled oub because she was not allowed to leave the questura until 5:30 AM? She actually wrote that she and Mr. Sollecito "were part of the last group to leave the questura, along with Laura, Filomena, Giacomo, and the other guys from downstairs, at 5:30 A.M." Was Ms. Chimera criticizing her because the police demanded Ms. Knox and Mr. Sollecito return to the questura at 11 AM sharp?

What numbers did Ms. Chimera refer to? The hours that the police actually questioned her, or the hours that they detained her? Ms. Knox did say she was questioned for six hours on Nov. 2nd, but she was detained from around 3 PM that day until 5:30 AM the next day. Whether she was questioned or not, she was deprived of sleep.

I've already noted how confusing Ms. Chimera is about the November 4th email. Ms. Chimera previously claimed it was directed to Judge Nencini but Ms. Chimera referenced a quote from the email that Ms. Knox sent to her friends and family. In this current question, Ms. Chimera referred to a part of the November 4th email that said Ms. Knox wanted to leave Italy, but couldn't because she was "an important part of the investigation."

Nowhere in the email to friends and family did Ms. Knox say she wanted to leave Italy. She did say that she couldn't leave, but nowhere in the email did she say it was because she was "an important part of the investigation." Ms. Chimera, what are you talking about?

Again, Ms. Chimera, reread Ms. Knox's email to her friends and family. Isn't that the one she sent on November 4th? She did not say anything about going home or even considering it.

Ms. Chimera, did you miss what Ms. Knox had written all through her book about learning to be an adult? She had some strange ideas about it, but it was very important to her. Going home without fulfilling her goals would have been defeat for her as an adult. It never even occurred to her that it would look like running away from a murder charge to you or anyone else.

Ms. Chimera has a strangely monolithic mind for a woman. She cannot understand Ms. Knox grieving for her murdered friend while trying to keep her own life going. In spite of fearing a killer might still have wanted to murder her also, Ms. Knox wanted to stay with her studies in Perugia.

What did Ms. Chimera insinuate that Mr. Sollecito would talk about? Meredith died while being alone in the villa. It's perfectly reasonable for Ms. Knox to fear that she could have been the victim if she had been there alone. What is Ms. Chimera cruelly insinuating by asking why Ms. Knox is alive and Meredith dead? And why couldn't Mr. Sollecito's arm around her be both protection and affection?

Did Ms. Chimera ever attend college or university? Why does it matter that Ms. Knox was not on one of the UW foreign exchange programs? She was still coming back to UW after her year abroad. She was still a part of the student body of UW even if she were not taking classes at the time.

Ms. Chimera, why don't you ask Ms. Knox's Dad why he hired the PR firm? Why ask Ms. Knox?

Ms. Knox does have an issue with being adult, but calling her mother is not one of them. Becoming adult usually involves realizing you have to accept help in addition to being self-sufficient.

Ms. Knox was reassessing her whole identity. She was honestly appraising her equation of casual sex with adulthood as well as all of her beliefs. Isn't Ms. Chimera the one being disingenuous asking if Ms. Knox is comparing casual sex to the aftermath of Meredith's murder? Sure, Ms. Knox had to deal with the repercussions of casual sex, but what does that have to do with dealing with a friend's murder?

Yes, all of us whether adult or child must deal with life as it is dealt to us. Ms. Chimera, your sarcasm was not helping.

When did Laura and Filomena state they were not interested in continuing to live with Ms. Knox? Before or after Ms. Knox was arrested? It's really a moot point since she was put in prison, but did Laura and Filomena agree with the lies about Ms. Knox when the trial came along?

Again, Ms. Chimera's sarcasm did not help anything. Mr. Sollecito was both protective and affectionate. There never was any of Ms. Knox's blood discovered at the crime scene whichever way you define it.

Given how completely irrational the police were in constructing a framing of Ms. Knox for Guede's crimes against Meredith, why question this officer's hostility to her for simply expressing her exhaustion?

Ms. Chimera's own insensitivity is noted since she criticized Ms. Knox for what normal people feel quite frequently: tired, hungry, and cold.

The police may routinely ask for details like locking doors, open windows, access to keys, visitors, but this is Ms. Knox's story. It's all new to her. Can't Ms. Chimera see that?

What is abnormal about Ms. Knox's attempt at lightening the mood with her "Ta-dah?" What does being five-years-old have to do with it? The police were scornful not because they thought it was inappropriate behavior but because they have already decided Ms. Knox is guilty. This little incident was one of Giobbi's absurd probable causes.

Ms. Chimera, if you want to know what the police were looking for when they took Ms. Knox back to the house, wouldn't you have to ask them instead of her?

Ms. Chimera, are you really that ignorant of human nature that you don't understand that Ms. Knox in "re-calibrating her answers" was trying to understand how to associate with the police she was with? It is a natural trait of gregarious species to adapt behavior to fit in. Ms. Knox may talk a great deal about being her own person, but the police used her desire to associate with them to brainwash her into signing the false confessions/accusations.

Again, this is Ms. Knox's book, and Ms. Chimera is not the editor. Why was it permissible for the police to ask these personal questions that would embarrass the Kerchers, but it was not in good taste for Ms. Knox to talk about how these question affected her? Ms. Chimera has no right to choose the truth for Ms. Knox. She was asked these questions for a reason, and it was not likely a good reason. Mignini wanted to make the case against Ms. Knox and Mr. Sollecito a sex game that went wrong.


I have to wonder at Stefano talking about a cat. The police claimed that a stray cat somehow got into the boys' apartment and severely injured itself shedding a lot of blood before miraculously escaping from the apartment. How did the cat get in if the police had to knock down the door? There is something suspicious about the lab test that said it was cat blood.

Ms. Chimera again is dense. Of course Ms. Knox had to write about the underwear purchase. It was so wildly exaggerated, and Ms. Chimera herself brought it up. What Mr. Sollecito said was certainly exaggerated. Even if they hugged and kissed the entire time, what difference does that make?

The police had already decided that Ms. Knox and Mr. Sollecito had killed Meredith. The focus on them was as suspects which was different from how the police treated Laura, Filomena, Giacomo, and the other men from downstairs.

It was Filomena who Ms. Knox wrote said the police "grilled" Ms. Knox because Ms. Knox knew Meredith better. Did Ms. Chimera get Filomena to confirm or deny this?

Did Ms. Chimera seriously think Laura and Filomena didn't talk to their lawyers about the marijuana the police were bound to hear about them using?

Ms. Knox only wrote what they told her. That of course was before they testified about her. Maybe they were just lying to Ms. Knox. I wonder if Laura and Filomena expected her to be arrested? Since Ms. Knox went to prison on Nov. 6th, it was a moot point about what they told her about sharing an apartment with her.

Why did Ms. Chimera call Ms. Knox's email to her friends and family her alibi email? As she said at the beginning of the email, she wanted to send one email to all of them so that she would have to notify them individually as each person sent an email asking her what was happening.

Of course Ms. Knox was sending this email to people, and some of them might not have heard that Meredith was dead. For that matter some of them might not know who Meredith was. What was Ms. chimera's point?

How was Ms. Knox supposed to tell her friends and family what she was going through with Meredith's death without telling them about Meredith? Why are these details about Meredith supposed to have embarrassed anyone? Why tell only part of what was going on and still have her friends and family asking her individually for more information?

Again, this is Ms. Knox's book. She did not write it to provide a complete record to Ms. Chimera. She mentioned sending the email and why, and she was already wrote into her book details it included.

Again, Ms. Knox didn't consider the police questions about Meredith's "background" to be suspicious. She thought some of the questions were irrelevant, especially about Meredith's sexual preferences.

Again, Ms. Chimera's sarcasm serves no purpose.

Why did Ms. Chimera see Ms. Knox's sympathy for Meredith as a confession? If she actually had killed Meredith, why would she care what torture Meredith endured?

Why would Ms. Knox have to "like" snuff stories to wonder what happened to Meredith? Isn't it the goal of self-styled advocates of true justice for Meredith to find out what "really" happened to Meredith? Don't guilters pressure Ms. Knox to reveal what "really" happened to Meredith? Is it so strange that Ms. Knox would not also want to know what happened to her friend?

Again, Ms. Chimera's sarcasm serves no purpose.

Since Ficarra was scolding Ms. Knox for hugging and kissing Mr. Sollecito, Mr. Sollecito was there to translate Ficarra's hostile message. I really don't think it was any of Ficarra's business or Ms. Chimera's either.

The police had taken Ms. Knox back to the villa where her friend was murdered. Didn't Ms. Chimera consider the whole apartment the crime scene? So why did she question Ms. Knox's horror of the murder? Why did she question that Ms. Knox would be overwhelmed by the emotions of returning to the villa where her friend had been brutally murdered?

Ms. Chimera displayed a cruel lack of understanding of human nature questioning why Ms. Knox had a panic attack. Besides the horror of her friend dying, it could have been Ms. Knox who had been there instead. Ms. Knox had described this villa as a safe place for her to mature. That safe place was taken away from her and something horrible was substituted.

Wasn't Ms. Knox vilified for not being where she could see into Meredith's room when the door was broken down? So how did Ms. Chimera insinuate that Ms. Knox had had a front row seat on seeing the blood, body and naked foot? Why was Ms. Chimera sarcastic over Ms. Knox not needing to see the horrible tableau to have a panic attack over it?

The police probably wanted Ms. Knox to pick out a possible murder weapon to get her fingerprints and DNA on it to claim she used it to kill Meredith.

The police did completely disjoint Ms. Knox's mind, but not that Ms. Chimera had understanding to notice. The "what-ifs" Ms. Knox was going through are part of human nature. I question Ms. Chimera's humanity since she did not make the connections.

Ms. Chimera's sarcasm about Ms. Knox's self-honesty is still without purpose.

The bunny vibrator caused misunderstandings with Meredith's British friends, and was used as evidence against Ms. Knox.

Did Ms. Chimera really think Ms. Knox was talking about Meredith's death in this section? She was talking about the false accusation she was arrested, tried, and imprisoned for. There is no way that Ms. Knox's "casual sex campaign" didn't have a major role in the bias against her.

Where did Ms. Chimera get the idea that Ms. Knox used murdering Meredith to solve her problems? What were these problems that Ms. Knox would have thought murder would solve them?

How was this abusive interrogation anything like a routine questioning? Did the police have something to hide when they conveniently didn't video-record that last interrogation? Ms. Chimera, do you have any shame?

There is no problem with Ms. Knox's account. Ficarra lied. Ms. Knox had a great deal of trouble communicating with Ficarra. That's the reason for the iterpreter, but the investigators still questioned Ms. Knox before the interpreter got there.

There were twelve different investigators signed to the interrogation report. Ms. Ficarra may have been the most important interrogator, but there were always at least two investigators at a time each screaming demands and threats at Ms. Knox at the same time.

The interpreter, Anna Donnino, was not just an interpreter. Ms. Donnino was also a mediator. She was not a neutral translator. She was coaxing Ms. Knox to self-incriminate herself.

Why did Ms. Knox have to retain the names of all of the investigators who interrogated her? What difference did it make that Ms. Knox could only identify Ficarra as the "chestnut haired woman?"

Luciano Ghirga didn't deny Ms. Knox was hit. He only denied ever saying that she had been hit. Besides, Mr. Ghirga let Ms. Knox testify she had been hit. Wouldn't Mr. Ghirga get into trouble for knowingly letting his client lie on the witness stand?

Ms. Chimera falsely asked why Ms. Knox did not include being hit in the head in her complaint to the ECHR. The complaint did not use the word "hit" but it did include the complaint for the "inhuman and degrading treatment" for "pats" to the head. It doesn't matter what word was used, it was still assault and battery.

The police can claim Ms. Knox was not supposed to be at the police station, but the lobby is a public area. They cannot tell her she cannot wait there. And if they understood that Ms. Knox was tired enough that they thought she should go home, why did they take advantage of her interrogating her anyhow?

The police didn't just ask Ms. Knox to put together names of men who knew Meredith, they trapped her in an interrogation room and in teams of at least two investigators each screamed demands and threats at her at the same time.

If there were only 3 officers and the interpreter Anna Donnino interrogating Ms. Knox, why were there 12 officers (and the interpreter) signed to the interrogation report?

Ms. Knox was in prison when the articles about the autopsy of Meredith appeared. It is not reasonable now to expect her to come up with proof that they existed. The horrible nature of Meredith's death was used to stir up hostile public opinion against Ms. Knox in Italy and the U.K. Since the police leaked all sorts of embarrassing  but irrelevant things about Ms. Knox, I doubt they had any scrupples about leaking the autopsy report. After all, the crime scene video of Meredith's body was leaked to Italian TV  (See: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1583555/Meredith-Kerchers-body-shown-on-Italian-TV.html .)

The police were definitely more interested in incriminating Ms. Knox than in finding proper evidence. They mistook threads found in Meredith's left hand for Negroid hair. So they were eager to find a black man to use to implicate Ms. Knox. That's why they were so interested in Patrick Lumumba even though Ms. Knox kept telling them she didn't meet Patrick Lumumba that night and that he had nothing to do with the murder.

Where did Ms. Knox say she wasn't paying attention to the news? It sounds the opposite. Was it because she couldn't get from the news what it was in the autopsy made the police bring Filomena, Laura, and her back to the villa? What is very interesting about the autopsy was that Dr. Lalli determined it was a pocket knife that caused the wounds to the neck and not the kitchen knife. However, the prosecution could not get away from the kitchen knife and made up evidence about it.

Again, Ms. Chimera, you misstate the facts. Ms Knox did not claim in her email to Judge Nencini that she was "questioned" for over 50 hours. She said: "I stayed in Perugia and was at the police's beck and call for over 50 hours in four days, convinced that I could help them find the murderer." Being at the beck and call of the police is not the same thing as being quesioned. The papers her lawyers filed in that appeal talk about that time detained by the police. It said that the total hours were 53. There is some confusion since there is some overlap in the details, but the lawyers took account of that in figuring up the 53 hours they claimed as the total.

Why wouldn't Ms. Knox think she was expected to come into work at Le Chic? Patrick Lumumba only said she could have the night off. And her reply did indicate that she expected to work later or why would she have said she would see him later? It certainly wasn't because she was arranging a clandestine meeting with him for some other purpose.

If Patrick Lumumba meant for her not to work for a while, he didn't make that clear. How would Ms. Knox know that Patrick Lumumba had a secret plan to replace her with Meredith? He didn't say anything about it until he told the police.